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Old 06-21-2008, 12:54 PM
 
Location: Wantagh NY
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Are you really comfortable with McCain? Take a look at this article...
:Analysis: McCain hampered by campaign missteps
The Associated Press: Analysis: McCain hampered by campaign missteps (broken link)

My question to you is do you believe he will get "better" at campaigning or is this all we should expect?
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Old 06-21-2008, 12:59 PM
 
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Another biased reporting by the media. Just pathetic.

I am more than comfortable with McCain, I might have to move out of the country if (that is a big if) Obama becomes the president. His economic policies are just bad for this country, and I can't afford to pay any more taxes than what I am currently paying. The government is totally inefficient, and Obama is going to make it even worse.

Obama, just another dishonest politician.
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Old 06-21-2008, 01:05 PM
 
Location: Albemarle, NC
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I hope people realize that much of this is opinion by the author. He does include a few facts, but it's not really a news piece.

That said, McCain is his own worst enemy in this election. His past words will come back to haunt him.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:18 PM
 
Location: Major Metro
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Another biased reporting by the media. Just pathetic.
Actually, if you read the article, you would see it was quite generous toward McCain. One of the quotes from the article: "And in truth, no candidate can expect to make it through a grueling presidential campaign without suffering one or two self-inflicted wounds — the most grievous of which are far worse than anything that has happened to McCain." The author then goes on to cite missteps by others like John Kerry and Obama. I guess if it isn't Fox News, you just assume it's going to be biased, pathetic reporting.

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I am more than comfortable with McCain, I might have to move out of the country if (that is a big if) Obama becomes the president. His economic policies are just bad for this country, and I can't afford to pay any more taxes than what I am currently paying. The government is totally inefficient, and Obama is going to make it even worse..
If every person (including celebrities) that said they were leaving (because they were unhappy with the political leader) actually left, we would probably see less strain on our country's resources due to the decline in population. Oh well, too bad no one follows through on their word.
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Old 06-21-2008, 05:37 PM
 
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Actually, if you read the article, you would see it was quite generous toward McCain. One of the quotes from the article: "And in truth, no candidate can expect to make it through a grueling presidential campaign without suffering one or two self-inflicted wounds — the most grievous of which are far worse than anything that has happened to McCain." The author then goes on to cite missteps by others like John Kerry and Obama. I guess if it isn't Fox News, you just assume it's going to be biased, pathetic reporting.



If every person (including celebrities) that said they were leaving (because they were unhappy with the political leader) actually left, we would probably see less strain on our country's resources due to the decline in population. Oh well, too bad no one follows through on their word.
I did actually read the piece. Did they talk about Obama's missteps? Why should they concentrate on McCain's missteps? Wouldn't they do the electorate a favor by objectively reporting the missteps of both campaigns?

For your information, I don't watch Fox News, I don't even have cable. Cable it is a total waste of money. I watch my local news and PBS.

I am not leaving because I don't like the politics, I am leaving because paying a capital gains tax of 28% is just too much for me. People with money can potentially pay as high as 50% of their income in taxes under Obama. I can't imagine an Obama presidency doing anything better with the extra tax that I will be paying.

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Old 06-21-2008, 08:21 PM
 
Location: Major Metro
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I did actually read the piece. Did they talk about Obama's missteps? Why should they concentrate on McCain's missteps? Wouldn't they do the electorate a favor by objectively reporting the missteps of both campaigns?.
A quote from the article: "Or more recently Democratic Sen. John Kerry's decision to go windsurfing in 2004, an event that Republicans turned into a metaphor for a politician who shifts with the wind. Obama himself spent days in the Democratic primary race trying to explain away remarks he made at a closed-door fundraiser that small-town Americans who were bitter over their economic plight turned to religion."

I guess I read with a more critical eye.


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For your information, I don't watch Fox News, I don't even have cable. Cable it is a total waste of money. I watch my local news and PBS.?.
Well, you're missing quite a few perspectives. I happen to watch it all from Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, BCC, local news etc. plus the internet blogs... I use all of this to form my opinions.

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I am not leaving because I don't like the politics, I am leaving because paying a capital gains tax of 28% is just too much for me. People with money can potentially pay as high as 50% of their income in taxes under Obama. I can't imagine an Obama presidency doing anything better with the extra tax that I will be paying.
Look as someone in the top 1% of wage earners (at least the stats claim this, hard to believe) with no kids, I feel your pain on this subject and I happen to dislike Obama's position on taxes period. However, there are far, far too many other issues that are more important to me than paying more taxes. That's part of the problem, people assuming that just because they support a democratic candidate, they have to agree with them on all the issues and then they label them socialists, communists, etc. Good old fashion McCarthyism at work.
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Old 06-22-2008, 06:23 AM
 
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A quote from the article: "Or more recently Democratic Sen. John Kerry's decision to go windsurfing in 2004, an event that Republicans turned into a metaphor for a politician who shifts with the wind. Obama himself spent days in the Democratic primary race trying to explain away remarks he made at a closed-door fundraiser that small-town Americans who were bitter over their economic plight turned to religion."

I guess I read with a more critical eye.




Well, you're missing quite a few perspectives. I happen to watch it all from Fox News, CNN, MSNBC, PBS, BCC, local news etc. plus the internet blogs... I use all of this to form my opinions.



Look as someone in the top 1% of wage earners (at least the stats claim this, hard to believe) with no kids, I feel your pain on this subject and I happen to dislike Obama's position on taxes period. However, there are far, far too many other issues that are more important to me than paying more taxes. That's part of the problem, people assuming that just because they support a democratic candidate, they have to agree with them on all the issues and then they label them socialists, communists, etc. Good old fashion McCarthyism at work.
Did you count the number of criticisms of McCain and Obama? How many did you get for both? I can sight a lot of missteps that Obama has committed that was not part of the article.

Even the headline is biased.

I am not missing any perspective from boycotting them, I read the WSJ, FT, NYTIMES, FORTUNE, the Economist etc, I get a lot of information also from other internet sources to form my own opinion.

I have other issues that I take into account. I care about universal health care (even though I have a good health insurance), I want the elimination of pork barrel, I want a reduction in government wastes (the GAO published a finding a couple of months ago about all the wastes in the defense department), I want an education reform (I support the voucher system, I think parents should be able to remove their kids from an underperforming school to a better one without all the restrictions), I want someone who is a fiscal conservative, etc.

I am not making my decision based on just taxes, I am making my decision based on a lot of other factors.

I also don't agree with McCain on most of his views on social issues. I support gay marriage, and also, I am pro-choice, but in this election, I think I will let the social issues take a back seat. I have decided to make a decision based on the economic issues because I think that is what the country needs right now.

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Old 06-22-2008, 07:16 AM
 
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look at this heading by AP

"Obama raps McCain on flood prevention programs"

Obama did not even show up to vote for the bill. The heading should have included this important fact. They should have stated that Obama was blaming McCain for something that He even did not find it important to show up for the voting.
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Old 06-22-2008, 08:33 AM
 
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Default WSJ, Letters: "Addressing Rumors About Obama, Capital Gains"

Today's top rate on long-term capital gains on stocks, bonds, mutual fund shares and other securities typically is 15%. A "long-term" gain refers to the gain you make on an investment you've sold after having owned it for more than one year. Gains on investments you've owned for a year or less typically are subject to tax as ordinary income, with current rates ranging up to 35%.

Sen. Obama proposes raising the 15% rate -- but only for families making more than $250,000 a year. How high? That's not yet clear. The adviser says the senator favors increasing it to about 20% or somewhat higher -- but not above the 28% level it reached when Ronald Reagan was president. He also says the same rate would apply to most dividend income.

Sen. McCain has proposed keeping the current rates on long-term capital gains and dividends. But some investment advisers think the 15% rate will rise no matter who wins the White House.

Even though Sen. McCain opposes raising the rate, financial advisers think he would go along with an increase as part of a compromise with the Democrats, who are expected to increase their majority in Congress. If Congress takes no action in coming years, the top capital-gains rate will rise automatically to 20%, based on current law, after the end of 2010.

Addressing Rumors About Obama, Capital Gains - WSJ.com
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