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Old 09-17-2008, 12:41 PM
 
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get ready for the "but... but, yeah, but..." rebuttal
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Home, Home on the Front Range
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How does my calling someone out for being a liar -turn me into a racist?

Please show me which comment in my post you are referring to- OR is your comment just a pre-recorded response?
Where exactly does one find this country 'Arab'?
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:55 PM
 
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Yes, and the term "Arab" is, both in East Africa and other places, a cultural distinction, not a religious or racial one. A Kenyan who is identified as Arab is simply a person whose family follows a culture that is influenced by Islam and Arab culture. It has nothing to do with ethnic identity or racial identity, especially since Arabs come in all races. And it does not mean the person is a Muslim, just as Obama's mom may not necessarily be Christian just because her skin is white and her name of European origin. As well, Barack Obama's father is a black African person who may or may not have been identified in a Kenyan sense as Arab. That does not make him a Muslim, and that does not mean he is not a black African man.
Now, there you go, trying to inject logic and sanity into the discussion. Tsk, tsk.


Yes, I would vote for any AMERICAN for president as long as he or she stood for those things that I believe in and find important.
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Old 09-17-2008, 01:57 PM
 
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Now, there you go, trying to inject logic and sanity into the discussion. Tsk, tsk.


Yes, I would vote for any AMERICAN for president as long as he or she stood for those things that I believe in and find important.
I'm sorry. Please forgive me.
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Old 09-17-2008, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Fort Myers Fl
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Yes I would. As long as they don't think like a liberal.
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Old 09-17-2008, 04:53 PM
 
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Thumbs up Good for you!!!

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Funny how all the liberals on here state they would vote for a Muslim, but their skin crawls when you ask them vote for a Christian?!?

As to the question, I'll be the first to answer it honesty and asnwer it for many here who are lairs. No, I would not. I studied Islam in school as the major part of my thesis. Sorry, but our beliefs and their beliefs clash on all fronts. A true, dedicated Muslim cannot conform to our society. To do so, is against their core beliefs.

That being said, I respect their religion and their right to practice it. As long as it remains peaceful. Just not as President of the United States of America.
Good for you standing up to all of these Liberals!! The thing is - Obama is not even black!! He calls himself African American but he is half white and was raised by his white mother (Kenyan Dad left them) and his white grandparents. I know several people who are half Asian (a lot of war babies) and they do not call themselves, Asian American. They call themselves Americans.....even though they obviously look Asian!!! Are you truly an Afican American (or black) is you are only half? Tiger Woods is one quarter white, asian, indian, and black. He looks a little Asian and he looks a little black - does he call himself an Asian -Afican -American because he looks like those nationalities...NO!
I think it is sad that so many people in the African American community are backing Obama only because his skin is the same as theirs. I am not voting for McCain because he is white!! Obama has no experience, no real love for his country, cannot really relate to the common person (but maybe his Columbia and Harvard Degrees are middle class) and he has too many shady friends - some in prison! If Obama is elected our taxes will go up, we will turn into a socialist country and the economy will go down the toilet. Put Colin Powell or Condi Rice in the White House and we would be in much better shape!!! I would vote for them in a heartbeat!!!
In these turbulent times with the Arab nations, I would have to know everything about the candidates background if they were of that decent. I support the war and respect all of the people fighting every day over there. Liberals refuse to understand (they think they are back in the 60s) the war made Iraq a better place for Iraqi people, it destroyed a Tyrant, and it made the world realize we will not tolerate terrorism.
Good luck to anyone who is a Republican on this forum!!
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Old 09-17-2008, 05:24 PM
 
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By posting this garbage, you are outing yourself as a bigot and a racist. Congratulations.
YES i would vote for an Arab-American, by the way. And anyone with two brain cells to rub together would never discount a candidate because of his/her ethnic heritage.
This is not true. I live in Memphis, TN and 99% of the black population here is voting for Obama. They have asked people why and most of them say they just want to see a black person finally take over the White House. Who is the racist there?
Have you not watch FoxNews, even the liberal MSNBC, where they have asked people who they are voting for... and if they said Obama then they asked why. Most of these people said because he wants "change." Then they asked what has Obama accomplished that makes him qualified to be President. NO ONE knew enough about him and they could not answer the question. They just celebrate they have made history with a black candidate. Many Dems cannot stop long enough to look at the big picture and ask the important questions....all they see is a charming black man.
**I want to get ahead of you hear and say that I am not making these comments because I am a racist!! I am not!! I would vote for an African American candidate in a heartbeat....if they were well qualified. I would not be living in Memphis, TN if is were a racist...I am a minority here.
The real fact here is that Liberals are so quick to judge Conservatives.
Many of the Liberal protestors at the Republican National Convention didn't even know what they were protesting...they just wanted to relive the 60s and thought it was cool to be on TV ! You can't vote for someone because they of their skin color...just like you can't vote for someone because they are a good orator and have charm.
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:36 PM
 
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[quote=Mom2My3;5310509]He calls himself African American but he is half white and was raised by his white mother (Kenyan Dad left them) and his white grandparents.
Have you ever noticed that most people who are a mix of African American and white identify themselves as African American? For whatever the reason, that IS the norm. Don't make it out like it's particular to Obama.

I think it is sad that so many people in the African American community are backing Obama only because his skin is the same as theirs.
Don't presume to know other peoples' reasons for why they vote the way they do.

no real love for his country, cannot really relate to the common person (but maybe his Columbia and Harvard Degrees are middle class)
No love for his country? What an idiotic statement. Ohhhhh I'm sorry, would it make it all better if he had crashed his plane and been a POW?
And SINCE WHEN did a good education become a bad thing? ARe you people just jealous because you couldn't get in those schools?

our taxes will go up, we will turn into a socialist country and the economy will go down the toilet.
Where have you been??? Haven't you noticed the economy is currently IN the toilet thanks to the same economic policies that McCain supports???

Liberals refuse to understand (they think they are back in the 60s) the war made Iraq a better place for Iraqi people, it destroyed a Tyrant, and it made the world realize we will not tolerate terrorism.
OH really? Have you spoken to any Iraqis living over there? Have you been there? There is just as much evidence to suggest that we have destabilized that region so badly that it will be twice as bad once we pull out. (which we never will, if McCain has his way.)
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Old 09-17-2008, 06:43 PM
 
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This is not true. I live in Memphis, TN and 99% of the black population here is voting for Obama. They have asked people why and most of them say they just want to see a black person finally take over the White House. Who is the racist there?
Have you not watch FoxNews, even the liberal MSNBC, where they have asked people who they are voting for... and if they said Obama then they asked why. Most of these people said because he wants "change." Then they asked what has Obama accomplished that makes him qualified to be President. NO ONE knew enough about him and they could not answer the question. They just celebrate they have made history with a black candidate. Many Dems cannot stop long enough to look at the big picture and ask the important questions....all they see is a charming black man.
**I want to get ahead of you hear and say that I am not making these comments because I am a racist!! I am not!! I would vote for an African American candidate in a heartbeat....if they were well qualified. I would not be living in Memphis, TN if is were a racist...I am a minority here.
The real fact here is that Liberals are so quick to judge Conservatives.
Many of the Liberal protestors at the Republican National Convention didn't even know what they were protesting...they just wanted to relive the 60s and thought it was cool to be on TV ! You can't vote for someone because they of their skin color...just like you can't vote for someone because they are a good orator and have charm.
Um, are you replying to the right post? I barely understood what you just wrote. And it had absolutely nothing to do with what you replied to.

I said that it would be idiotic to discount a candidate because of his ethnic heritage or beliefs. YOU were the one who started a new rant on the black people who vote for him because he's black. And I agree, it's not wise to blatantly vote for someone just because of their skin color.

Just like you shouldn't vote for someone just because he was a POW.
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Old 09-17-2008, 07:53 PM
 
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There are some seriously delusional folks on this thread. They read screeds from the nutcases out there (or hear them on Fuxxed News) and the conspiracy theory wheels start turning:

Obama's an Arab!
He has terrorist friends!
Why is his name Hussein???? He's a Muslim!!!
Reverend Wright!
He's not black!
Why do blacks call themselves African Americans!
Obama does not love America!
He went to Harvard! He's not one of us!
When blacks vote for blacks, they're racist!
Tiger Woods!
Liberals are the devil!
Down with Gary Coleman!
Will Smith has big ears!
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