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Old 08-30-2008, 11:35 AM
 
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$3B is pennies. We spend $10B on iraq PER MONTH.
Yes...we spend, the Iraqi's make.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:41 AM
 
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So tell us What 4000 soldiers died for again? Why are we in a Nation that didn't attack us? Why aren't we in Afghanistan? Where is the CHEAP gas we were promised? Wait...it's in China, who will now be exerting more pressure on World oil demand. Good grief.
Cheap gas? Who promised you that?

Facts???

We are in Afghanistan, if you were on top of things better you would know we just took out more then 100 Taliban members in that country in one swipe.

Go back to the 4000 numbers, it is all your got.

We have an volunteer army and they ALL know what they are doing when they are volunteer for the job.

We lost FAR more people in every war we have been in by percentage but you fail to mention that.

Good grief, no wonder so many people are losing their way over priced and sold homes in America.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:44 AM
 
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Yes...we spend, the Iraqi's make.
Gimme a break.

If we took one single dime from them these libs would be crying the blues.

We went their for the oil.... remember the cry baby dems said this and we have got zero oil.

Its the dems fault we have not got any oil from this, even when the Iraqi wanted to give us oil, the liberal congress members went on a rampage.

The dem party has cost us more lives by screwing over our soldiers then even our enemies.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:45 AM
 
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Oh the average American Well we have the benefit of paying for it.
Is anyone good at math whats 1,000,000,000,000+interest divided by 330 million?
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I was speaking in terms of the American public
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:48 AM
 
Location: Charlotte
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Default And where are oil prices?

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Cheap gas? Who promised you that?

Facts???

We are in Afghanistan, if you were on top of things better you would know we just took out more then 100 Taliban members in that country in one swipe.

Go back to the 4000 numbers, it is all your got.

We have an volunteer army and they ALL know what they are doing when they are volunteer for the job.

We lost FAR more people in every war we have been in by percentage but you fail to mention that.

Good grief, no wonder so many people are losing their way over priced and sold homes in America.
From the Washington Times, 9/19/02:
As for the impact of a war with Iraq, “It depends how the war goes.†But he quickly adds that that “Under every plausible scenario, the negative effect will be quite small relative to the economic benefits that would come from a successful prosecution of the war.â€
“The key issue is oil, and a regime change in Iraq would facilitate an increase in world oil,†which would drive down oil prices, giving the U.S. economy an added boost.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:54 AM
 
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How bout Bushie former economic advisor Laurence Lindsay?Think Progress » Dan Bartlett Caught In A Lie: ‘No One Ever Said The War Would Result In Cheaper Gas Prices’
Or how bout the Owner of your favorite talking heads Hannity and O'Reilly Mr. MurdochMedia Matters - Rupert Murdoch -- who once predicted Iraq war could lead to $20/barrel oil -- described war casualties as "minute"
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Originally Posted by Sunshine Chick View Post
Cheap gas? Who promised you that?

Facts???

We are in Afghanistan, if you were on top of things better you would know we just took out more then 100 Taliban members in that country in one swipe.

Go back to the 4000 numbers, it is all your got.

We have an volunteer army and they ALL know what they are doing when they are volunteer for the job.

We lost FAR more people in every war we have been in by percentage but you fail to mention that.

Good grief, no wonder so many people are losing their way over priced and sold homes in America.
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Old 08-30-2008, 11:59 AM
 
Location: New York City
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If I remember correctly, it was the dems who whined that we were going to Iraq for oil, we have got ZERO oil.
SO the Bush administration couldnt even get THAT right??

an illegal war to get Oil, 4000 American lives lost, and we didn't even get the freegin Oil.

I can let you have some rope or a sword.

Which one do you want?
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:01 PM
 
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The Iraqi government just made fools of the USA. How stupid can the Bush Admin be. I was a republican but Obama has my vote now.
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Old 08-30-2008, 12:02 PM
 
Location: New York City
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We have an volunteer army and they ALL know what they are doing when they are volunteer for the job.
They volunteered to PROTECT OUR COUNTRY WHEN IT NEEDS PROTECTION.

BUSH SENT THEM TO SECURE OIL FIELDS AND THEY DIED.

Stop insulting our Military by saying they signed up to fight a misguided war
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Old 08-30-2008, 01:06 PM
 
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McCain right: Surge Worked, Iraq signs 3 billion oil deal with China.

This is a factual statement.

Iraq signs $3B oil deal with China - CNN.com

There is nothing wrong with a country doing business with China.

The Oil Ministry continues to negotiate short-term, no-bid contracts with several U.S. and European oil companies, including Exxon Mobil Corp., Royal Dutch Shell, Total SA, Chevron Corp., and BP.
Iraq currently produces about 2.5 million barrels a day. Iraqi Oil Minister Hussein Shahrastani told CNN in July that he is confident Iraq will be able to double its production in the next five years.

As for windfall taxes on oil companies. It's not a good idea for very long.

An accounting benefit eases the sting for oil companies. They get a huge deduction on their state taxes when calculating their federal taxes. But, Oil companies already pay about 50% of their profits in taxes. A national windfall tax on oil companies would be disastrous.

The industry warns new taxes are already discouraging future exploration and development in newer, more expensive projects needed to boost waning production in Alaska's oil patches.
"Clearly, from the investor standpoint, Alaska has become a less attractive place to invest exploration and production dollars," said Marilyn Crockett, executive director of the Alaska Oil and Gas Association. -- from The Seattle Times.


Laurence Lindsey, President Bush’s senior economic advisor at the time — argued in 2002 that the Iraq war would increase oil supplies and lower prices.

This could still happen as Iraq doubles it's supply over the next 5 years.
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