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Old 09-05-2008, 10:31 PM
 
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Let's hear why Mccain will bring change and I don't mean a general one liner. Let's hear about his platform, views and ideas for implementing change.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:49 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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  1. McCain is a maverick. He has a record of crossing party lines to get things done, and does not engage in standard party bickering. He has worked with Ted Kennedy, and other prominent Democrats to work on bills that were not popular within his party, and he did it because he believes in compromise rather than party bickering.
  2. McCain has a record of leadership. He has helped to author, had his name on, or cosponsored over 100 bills during his carrer. Obama has only cosponsored 2 bills but never introduced one himself.
  3. McCain has served his country, and truly knows what it means to be an American. At his convention, the people chanted "USA" rather than "McCain" like at the other convention because it is the party of patriots with a great patriot at the top of the ticket.
  4. McCain does NOT want to punish the wealthy and businesses at their attempt at the American Dream. Taxing already overburdened small businesses and corporations will drive them to close altogether or leave the country, a concept Obama doesn't seem to understand.
  5. McCain was RIGHT in his quest for a troop surge. He has TREMENDOUS foreign credentials, which are greatly needed in such a dangerous world. One thing you cannot say about Bush is that after 911 (which I put the blame for that on Clinton who cut $35 billion from defense systems during his presidency) we have never been attacked. Had an Obama or Gore been president, we would have been attacked again without question.
  6. McCain is a pro life, a stance I share with him. Think about it this way, had Obama's mom gotten an abortion because she was a young mother (as many young mothers do), the "beloved King Obama" wouldn't even be here right now. I am fine with things like birth control and "morning after pills" but once a baby is there, I believe it has rights.
  7. McCain wants to make English this countries OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. This is one of the main reasons I am a republican to begin with. Our nation needs to be an english speaking country for the sake of unity. I am very at odds with McCain on immigration, but I do think we have a better hope of "putting off amnesty" under McCain. Since he wants to build the wall first, we have time. Obama wants to get those people legalized as fast as he can to admit millions of new democrats into the system.
  8. I have NO DOUBT that John McCain will reduce the wasteful government spending, and I know Sarah Palin will be on his side on conquering our way oversized government. It is ridiculous how oversized our government has come (and it is more broken than it has ever been).
  9. I dont think America is a system of social welfare where the poor can just be handed money just because they make none of their own. We shouldn't have people in this country that leech of the American people. Obama almost promotes those social programs. John McCain tries to solve those problems by enriching job avaliability to put people into society instead of throwing them money as a band-aid.
  10. Our economy is in the tank, and Obama's programs will undoubtedly increase unemployment, cause rampant inflation, etc. Taxing people in this society to death does NOT work. John McCain knows that "indirectly" taxing the people is the same as taxing them. When you tax businesses more, that tax is passed on to the consumer who, in turn, ends up paying more for that product. It will be DEVASTATING to the lower class if we do this. They cant afford goods, could you imagine if everything around them goes up in price because Obama has taxed the parent companies from where they buy there goods to death?
  11. Energy independence does NOT come from cutting off oil altogether, that will not work and Obama knows it. McCain has it right. We need to drill HERE AND NOW! While we continue to develop the technologies needed to be more "green" we cant just eliminate all of our oil consumption, and anyone who thinks it will be a "1 day change" like Obama proposes is sorely mistaken. McCain's plans aren't a quick solution, they will take time.
  12. One misconception is that McCain doesn't support a "comprehensive medical reform" bill, which is totally false. He wants EVERYONE to have access to healthcare, but he doesn't want it to be under a government beurocracy (sp?). His plan is to give people vouchers to access the healthcare programs and doctors that are best for each family rather than one large government run health care system. After all, isn't it already a pain in the a** when we have to deal with the government? Could you imagine how much more difficult it would be if we have to turn to our government for our healthcare?
McCain/Palin, the REAL change Washington needs in 2008!

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Old 09-05-2008, 10:52 PM
 
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Thank you.....and you and I have butted heads in the past Seriously...thanks.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:55 PM
 
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  1. McCain is a maverick. He has a record of crossing party lines to get things done, and does not engage in standard party bickering. He has worked with Ted Kennedy, and other prominent Democrats to work on bills that were not popular within his party, and he did it because he believes in compromise rather than party bickering.
  2. McCain has a record of leadership. He has helped to author, had his name on, or cosponsored over 100 bills during his carrer. Obama has only cosponsored 2 bills but never introduced one himself.
  3. McCain has served his country, and truly knows what it means to be an American. At his convention, the people chanted "USA" rather than "McCain" like at the other convention because it is the party of patriots with a great patriot at the top of the ticket.
  4. McCain does NOT want to punish the wealthy and businesses at their attempt at the American Dream. Taxing already overburdened small businesses and corporations will drive them to close altogether or leave the country, a concept Obama doesn't seem to understand.
  5. McCain was RIGHT in his quest for a troop surge. He has TREMENDOUS foreign credentials, which are greatly needed in such a dangerous world. One thing you cannot say about Bush is that after 911 (which I put the blame for that on Clinton who cut $35 billion from defense systems during his presidency) we have never been attacked. Had an Obama or Gore been president, we would have been attacked again without question.
  6. McCain is a pro life, a stance I share with him. Think about it this way, had Obama's mom gotten an abortion because she was a young mother (as many young mothers do), the "beloved King Obama" wouldn't even be here right now. I am fine with things like birth control and "morning after pills" but once a baby is there, I believe it has rights.
  7. McCain wants to make English this countries OFFICIAL LANGUAGE. This is one of the main reasons I am a republican to begin with. Our nation needs to be an english speaking country for the sake of unity. I am very at odds with McCain on immigration, but I do think we have a better hope of "putting off amnesty" under McCain. Since he wants to build the wall first, we have time. Obama wants to get those people legalized as fast as he can to admit millions of new democrats into the system.
  8. I have NO DOUBT that John McCain will reduce the wasteful government spending, and I know Sarah Palin will be on his side on conquering our way oversized government. It is ridiculous how oversized our government has come (and it is more broken than it has ever been).
  9. I dont think America is a system of social welfare where the poor can just be handed money just because they make none of their own. We shouldn't have people in this country that leech of the American people. Obama almost promotes those social programs. John McCain tries to solve those problems by enriching job avaliability to put people into society instead of throwing them money as a band-aid.
  10. Our economy is in the tank, and Obama's programs will undoubtedly increase unemployment, cause rampant inflation, etc. Taxing people in this society to death does NOT work. John McCain knows that "indirectly" taxing the people is the same as taxing them. When you tax businesses more, that tax is passed on to the consumer who, in turn, ends up paying more for that product. It will be DEVASTATING to the lower class if we do this. They cant afford goods, could you imagine if everything around them goes up in price because Obama has taxed the parent companies from where they buy there goods to death?
  11. Energy independence does NOT come from cutting off oil altogether, that will not work and Obama knows it. McCain has it right. We need to drill HERE AND NOW! While we continue to develop the technologies needed to be more "green" we cant just eliminate all of our oil consumption, and anyone who thinks it will be a "1 day change" like Obama proposes is sorely mistaken. McCain's plans aren't a quick solution, they will take time.
McCain/Palin, the REAL change Washington needs in 2008!
Thanks ocexpo. You made that easy.
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Old 09-05-2008, 10:58 PM
 
Location: OC, CA
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Thanks ocexpo. You made that easy.
I know my candidate. Your welcome.

Anyone else feel free to add to it.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:04 PM
 
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Anyone else feel free to add to it.
Would I be welcome to offer a counterpoint to your post, or is that not in the spirit of this topic?
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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Would I be welcome to offer a counterpoint to your post, or is that not in the spirit of this topic?
You can but it would work better (I think) if you offered it in the Obama thread so it doesn't overlap. (i think I said that right)
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Fuquay-Varina
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My candidate is John McCain. Most are probably not aware because it is not talked about very often, but....McCain was in the Vietnam War, and actually spent time as a POW.

In all seriousness, McCain led the largest Naval Squadron which is undoubtably considered "executive experience".

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McCain set an audacious goal of getting nearly all the planes flying again. To do so, he took the unusual step of promoting people from down in the ranks into key positions. He convinced his superiors to let him cannibalize parts from idle aircraft. And mostly, he acted as a cheerleader, egging on the maintenance crews with the same outsized personality that's helped him on the campaign trail.

"He'd usually start out by kidding the chief petty officer in there, giving him a hard time. And the guys just loved it," said Smith. "It changed the whole atmosphere of the squadron. The attitude was one of excitement. Prior to him, I think most people in the squadron had a sort of 9-to-5 mentality. But attitudes changed rather quickly."
more of that article here McCain's First (And Only) Military Command : NPR


I like the line about promoting from down the ranks people into key positions that ultimately led to his, theirs, and the squadrons success. This parallels what he has done with his VP pick. Time will only tell if it was a good decision or not, but he has shown to be a good judge of character in the past. His results with the squadron were well praised and a tribute to his leadership skills. This also shows he has a record of reform dating back 30 years, a willingness to take on what "can't be done" and actually get it done.
I realize this is a more obscure angle, and not politics related. When I read the article, I felt I understood where he is coming from a little better.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:07 PM
 
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Would I be welcome to offer a counterpoint to your post, or is that not in the spirit of this topic?
The OP asked for McCain voters only. I don't know what his reason for that particular request was. I guess it's up to you whether you honor it or not.
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Old 09-05-2008, 11:11 PM
 
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The OP asked for McCain voters only. I don't know what his reason for that particular request was. I guess it's up to you whether you honor it or not.
Too many facts get lost in all of the huffing and puffing. One person will state a stance then the rebuttal usually turns out to be something like "he's a crackhead" or "her daughter's a *****". If people post positively and factually then you get a much better thread of information on each candidate from someone other than the candidates writing team who posted it on their website. Yes I can form my own opinion, but it's also nice to hear others.
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