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Old 09-09-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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Because the person who takes th euninsured job is supposed to ENTRY LEVEL jobs.. Ever hear of moving up, to find a better job, opening up the other jobs for those entering the work force? That is how its supposed to work.
SURE it's really easy to get a better job in this economy. INsurance is nearly unattainable for a LOT of people.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:40 AM
 
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Interestingly, we stand alone in that regard:

"According to the Institute of Medicine of the National Academy of Sciences, the United States is the only wealthy, industrialized nation that does not provide universal health care."

Universal health care - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Whats your point?
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:41 AM
 
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What an ignorant statement. How about because health insurance can cost about $500 a month for one person which a LOT of people could never afford? And obviously this person is a hard worker, with two jobs.
Well, rent or house payment can cost a lot more than $500. Should someone besides you be responsible for that too? And what about food? Should someone pay for your food?
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:42 AM
 
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I hate to tell you but I just watched a clip of OBAMA on Olberman and he said

"....make sure that health care is ....pause...um....accessible to everyone".


Stay tuned. Accessible is the committment.
WHich is a VAST improvement over the current situation.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:42 AM
 
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SURE it's really easy to get a better job in this economy. INsurance is nearly unattainable for a LOT of people.
How many job interviews this week have you been on? How many resumes have you sent out? If the answer is none, then come back after you have experience looking for a job and talk..
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:43 AM
 
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Well, rent or house payment can cost a lot more than $500. Should someone besides you be responsible for that too? And what about food? Should someone pay for your food?
That's not a good comparison. A person must have food and shelter to survive. Healthcare, unfortuantely, is seen as a "luxury" to a lot of people.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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Well, rent or house payment can cost a lot more than $500. Should someone besides you be responsible for that too? And what about food? Should someone pay for your food?
For heavens sake, dont stop there.. my gas bill will cost me $1500 in the middle of winter, and if I dont pay for it, I DIE, my children DIE, and if I do pay for it, I have to take money that could have been spent on food to pay for it.

I think I have a right to heat my home, and my poor little children need to live in a home with heat! Think of the children...


Where will the I expect this and that from everyone stop in this country!!
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:45 AM
 
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I saw this piece when it ran on "60 Minutes" and my initial response was "Oh this is terrible". But then they got to the point where they talked about the man who was a truckdriver and had insurance but couldn't afford the $500 deductible. I have until recently had employer provided insurance and it has always had at least a $500 deductible most recently $1500. How could this man afford the gas and time to go to a free clinic and not be able to afford the deductible? It made me question the premise of the entire piece. I have never considered myself un or under insured if I had a policy with a $500 deductible, but I have also never expected the government to hold my hand.
Please explain how a person with a $500 deductible is considered uninsured!
NEWSFLASH. Some Americans are just stupid. Many of them in fact. They will never make responsible decisions as you would. Even if it means not having healthcare. They just don't have it upstairs to save, plan and not live paycheck to paycheck.

So given that??? Are you still going to screw them by not providing basic care to another American???. As countries all over the World provide for their citizens???

At least in a Universal healtchare system the working poor do pay into the system. Now they just go to the ER and their cost get passed on to you and me via higher healthcare premiums.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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How many job interviews this week have you been on? How many resumes have you sent out? If the answer is none, then come back after you have experience looking for a job and talk..
You can drop the attitude right now Because for your information, I have been looking for a better job - with *surprise* healthcare - for about 1.5 months now. I've been on several interviews.
You're obviously out of touch with other people's situations.
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Old 09-09-2008, 09:46 AM
 
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Wrong.

We have turned into a nation of selfish me-me-me-ers who don't give a flying fart what happens to the next person, or even to our country as a whole, so long as we personally can have our creature comforts.

We have no clue how to think about anyone but ourselves anymore, or how to look past today and maybe half of tomorrow, making rash decisions instead to make ourselves happy in this very moment (and ignoring how helping others today could help us as a whole tomorrow), and our country is currently in the sh * tter. Wild coincidence.

All I hear from whimpery old fart Conservative Reichs is how "the new generation doesn't care about anyone but themselves". Hysterical...since it is YOUR teachings that got them there. "Grab what you can for yourself, sonny, and f * ck everybody else."

Today's generation doesn't expect handouts because of crazy lib Dems; today's generation expects handouts because its red-voting parents have taught it to think about themselves only, for this very minute, to not think of the implications of the future and to just grab 'n go. Then when it's all gone...they sit there in shock and expect more to suddenly come from nowhere. That's when they do look for handouts. How many "red" states are utterly filled with people receiving assistance? Think about it.

If you like to think, that is.

And I love how people are whining about how they don't think they should have to pay for schools, either. Again...never thinking of the future and DEFINITELY never thinking about the country as a whole. Who the hell do you think you are calling libs "unAmerican"? We do care about the future of this country and whether the people running it will be educated or not...you, on the other hand, don't give a sh i te. You care about your piece of the pie, and scr * w the rest of America and certainly scr * w the future. Fine, you have a right to feel however you do...but for the sake of not insulting anyone's intelligence, from now on would you kindly refrain from the idiotic and obviously quite erroneous "Gawd bless Ameruhkuh!" saw you love to grind endlessly? Because the way you feel about the rest of the country, hell, even the next town over that isn't "yours", you obviously couldn't give two hoots where this country is headed, or even where it is now.

So sad.



Socialist drivel.
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