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Old 10-01-2008, 02:43 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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It was rumored and proven by some that the 2004 election was stolen by repub governor and sect'y of state and faulty diebold machines which "flipped" votes from kerry to bush. there were also long lines of poor ppl (presumably dem voters) who were not able to vote due to the lack of voting machines in their precincts.
now that you have a dem governor and early voting, what practices do you see in play to make the election fair and square?
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Old 10-01-2008, 02:47 PM
 
Location: New Jersey
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It was rumored and proven by some that the 2004 election was stolen by repub governor and sect'y of state and faulty diebold machines which "flipped" votes from kerry to bush. there were also long lines of poor ppl (presumably dem voters) who were not able to vote due to the lack of voting machines in their precincts.
now that you have a dem governor and early voting, what practices do you see in play to make the election fair and square?
Your accusations, we're NEVER proven.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:52 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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It was rumored and proven by some that the 2004 election was stolen by repub governor and sect'y of state and faulty diebold machines which "flipped" votes from kerry to bush.
In the first place, Democrats were operating those particular machines, and they're the ones who screwed it up because they weren't properly trained to operate the machines. Secretary of State Ken Blackwell repeatedly begged the Ohio legislature to approve money for more training on the machines and also more machines of any type to handle to problems, but was ignored.

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there were also long lines of poor ppl (presumably dem voters) who were not able to vote due to the lack of voting machines in their precincts.
The number of machines at a given polling precinct is based on the number of people who voted in the previous elections. If there is a sudden surge in voters at a given precinct, there's no real way to predict that.

A surge in registered voters for a polling precinct might give hints, but it is up to the polling precinct to request additional machines. The polling precincts are controlled and run by the political party in that particular county. So where Democrats ran those counties, you have only Democrats to blame.


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now that you have a dem governor and early voting, what practices do you see in play to make the election fair and square?
None.

A number of Democrats were charged and convicted in court of voter fraud for registering non-existent voters and using non-existent addresses.

Ken Blackwell tried to stop that practice by mailing voter registration cards certified mail to addresses which were neither on the tax rolls nor in the driver's license/state ID database. He was sued by Democrats to stop the practice.

He also tried to require photo ID but was sued and blocked by Democrats.

He also tried to stop the rampant voter fraud on campuses through the use of recycled voter registration cards and double-voting, but was again sued and blocked by Democrats.

In Hamilton County alone there will probably be several thousand fraudulent votes cast which could tip the balance of the election.

Those fraudulent votes will be cast by dead voters (the local NBC affiliate uncovered 27 dead voters before stopping their investigation).

And by students who will vote twice, once by absentee ballot in their home state or county and once here locally.

And also by recycled voter registration cards, where students who were registered to vote have left the county to return to their home state or home county and given their voter registration card to a group who gives them to illegal aliens and also students so they can vote twice.
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Old 10-01-2008, 06:59 PM
 
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Lots of accusations and no sources whatsoever.

Here are the actual facts on the 2004 election in Ohio:

Was the 2004 Election Stolen? : Rolling Stone

"The reports were especially disturbing in Ohio, the critical battleground state that clinched Bush's victory in the electoral college. Officials there purged tens of thousands of eligible voters from the rolls, neglected to process registration cards generated by Democratic voter drives, shortchanged Democratic precincts when they allocated voting machines and illegally derailed a recount that could have given Kerry the presidency. A precinct in an evangelical church in Miami County recorded an impossibly high turnout of ninety-eight percent, while a polling place in inner-city Cleveland recorded an equally impossible turnout of only seven percent. In Warren County, GOP election officials even invented a nonexistent terrorist threat to bar the media from monitoring the official vote count."
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