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Old 10-05-2008, 07:12 PM
 
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Just a question? Since we are being told he knows how to win wars, where is that coming from? He was not a successful warrior.
More from his resume:
McCain lost FIVE US Aircrafts
Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:12 PM
 
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Hardly envy for the bottom of the class. I graduated Summa as did two out of three of my children.
Wondermus, I'm Neil Armstrong.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:18 PM
 
Location: Everybody is going to hurt you, you just gotta find the ones worth suffering for-B Marley
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Just a question? Since we are being told he knows how to win wars, where is that coming from? He was not a successful warrior.
Likewise, we have more proof that McCain knows more about foreign affairs than, as we're being told, Obama knows how to fix the economy. His voting record bears rehashing--anyone who's afraid to take a stand one way or the other--vote one way or the other--isn't ready to lead a nation. Not this nation, anyway.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:20 PM
 
Location: ***Spokane***
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What is this supposed to mean? You think McCain had some control over whether his Vietnamese captors executed him?

No McCain does *not* "know how to win wars". He never won one.

His father and father's father were admirals in the U.S. Navy. But not John. He probably feels a lot of pressure on that account. But President trumps an admiral, I suppose.
Only he would beable to anwer that question, we were not there..
Your statement about McCain not winning a war, America lost that war for many reasons, alot due to the lack of support from a large part of the American ppl and elected officials...alot of lost lives in that war, may their souls rest in peace...
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:32 PM
 
Location: Santa Monica
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More from his resume:
McCain lost FIVE US Aircrafts
Navy pilot John Sidney McCain III should have never been allowed to graduate from the U.S. Navy flight school. He was a below average student and a lousy pilot. Had his father and grandfather not been famous four star U.S. Navy admirals, McCain III would have never been allowed in the cockpit of a military aircraft.

One of the fighters that McCain "lost" was waiting on the flight deck on the USS Forrestal as it was blowing up due to a previous accident elsewhere on the ship.

The piece you cite says that McCain had a total of 20 hours of combat time (that is, time spent over enemy territory) in 23 combat missions flown during the Vietnam Conflict before he was shot down. He received 28 medals for his service in Vietnam.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:51 PM
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Location: Wisconsin
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Wondermus, I'm Neil Armstrong.
What's so funny about you neo cons is that you are so use to lying that you honestly can't realize when others tell the truth. Too funny.
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:57 PM
 
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What's so funny about you neo cons is that you are so use to lying that you honestly can't realize when others tell the truth. Too funny.
Bet that wets the ole Depends! Those nasty neo cons.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:02 PM
 
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Bet that wets the ole Depends! Those nasty neo cons.
oh no the sniffing of McBush's used Depends begins yet again.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:15 PM
 
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One of the fighters that McCain "lost" was waiting on the flight deck on the USS Forrestal as it was blowing up due to a previous accident elsewhere on the ship.

The piece you cite says that McCain had a total of 20 hours of combat time (that is, time spent over enemy territory) in 23 combat missions flown during the Vietnam Conflict before he was shot down. He received 28 medals for his service in Vietnam.
Approved by dad? What missions did he have prior to being shot down?
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:17 PM
 
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One of the fighters that McCain "lost" was waiting on the flight deck on the USS Forrestal as it was blowing up due to a previous accident elsewhere on the ship.

The piece you cite says that McCain had a total of 20 hours of combat time (that is, time spent over enemy territory) in 23 combat missions flown during the Vietnam Conflict before he was shot down. He received 28 medals for his service in Vietnam.
Read what David Hackworth thought about McCain's "hero" medals
On a purely medal count basis, he outweighs Murphy and Glenn, who both for years repeatedly performed extraordinary deeds on the ground or in the air against an armed enemy.

McCain's valor awards are based on what happened in 1967, when during his 23d mission over Vietnam, he was shot down, seriously injured, captured and then spent 5 1/2 brutal years as a POW.

In an attempt to find out exactly what the man did to earn these many hero awards, I asked his Senate office three times to provide copies of the narratives for each medal. I'm still waiting.

I next went to the Pentagon. Within a week, I received a recap of his medals and many of the narratives that give the details of what he did.

None of the awards, less the DFC, were for heroism over the battlefield where he spent no more than 20 hours. Two Naval officers described the awards as "boilerplate" and "part of an SOP medal package given to repatriated (Vietnamera) POWs."

So again other then being shot down what are his hero credentials?
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