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Old 10-05-2008, 08:20 PM
 
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Just a question? Since we are being told he knows how to win wars, where is that coming from? He was not a successful warrior.
How was he not successful? Because he was captured?

The guy showed more guts during that whole situation than you or I would ever show more than likely. He had an opportunity to be released and chose not to out of fairness to those who were captured long before him, and no matter what torture he suffered he kept going because of faith in himself and the love he grew for his country.

If that's not successful to you than you have very unrealistic standards.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:20 PM
 
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So again other then being shot down what are his hero credentials?

Ouch!

POWs are traditionally, and usually for good reason, treated with special deference by the military. My understanding would be that referring to each POW as a 'hero' for surviving that status means something different from heroism in combat.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:21 PM
 
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oh no the sniffing of McBush's used Depends begins yet again.

I'm sure the acrid ammonia based scent is like liquid hor'deuves to the left.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:22 PM
 
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I'm sure the acrid ammonia based scent is like liquid hor'deuves to the left.
How can you describe the smell in such detail ... oh never mind.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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How can you describe the smell in such detail ... oh never mind.

Because the beggars from the left demand it?
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:24 PM
 
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Ouch!

POWs are traditionally, and usually for good reason, treated with special deference by the military. My understanding would be that referring to each POW as a 'hero' for surviving that status means something different from heroism in combat.
I will accept that and thats what the Americain people need to be told and not misled. If was not for heroism in combat but as a reasonable recognition of his time as a POW. Then they can determine it is worthy of hero status in THEIR mind
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:27 PM
 
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Because the beggars from the left demand it?
And you decide to inhale the Depends so obediently ... like a dog?
Didn't the beggars from the right help you?
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:28 PM
 
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And you decide to inhale the Depends so obediently ... like a dog?
Didn't the beggars from the right help you?

You're losing it boy, you must have had your quota.
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Old 10-05-2008, 08:32 PM
 
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You're losing it boy, you must have had your quota.
Its your post, just clarifying what you said. Seems like you are losing it, you forget what you wrote after one post?
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Old 10-05-2008, 11:05 PM
 
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Only he would beable to anwer that question, we were not there..
Your statement about McCain not winning a war, America lost that war for many reasons, alot due to the lack of support from a large part of the American ppl and elected officials...alot of lost lives in that war, may their souls rest in peace...
No, I said he personally was not a successful warrior, not the entire US Navy. That said, we did not win the war, so he does not have that to go on. Bush 1 won the battle and honorably ended hostilities, but McCain did not have any good ideas on how to remove SH in the 12 years after the first war. I just see no evidence of great warrior leadership.
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