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No, I am not crazy. I received rep with a nasty comment with your name on it. If you didn't send that to me then I accept that, but for 2 weeks I have thought you did because I received it. If you didn't send it then someone else did and signed your name. I got 3 others that same night and those were not signed, and one that was signed with your name. I even commented to you on a thread that night that if you were going to send me a nasty rep you probably shouldn't have signed your name. I guess you didn't see that since you seem to know nothing about it and I do believe you. But I also know I received one with your name signed to it. (I said DM earlier but actually it wasn't DM, it was a rep comment).
I guess you don't understand how an Intact Dilation and Extraction "partial birth abortion" is performed. These types of abortions are most commonly performed due to fetal defect such as hydrocephaly. The head is collapsed inside before it is removed from the birth canal. That is why it is safer to perform that type of abortion due to that type of fetal defect.
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I guess you don't understand how an Intact Dilation and Extraction "partial birth abortion" is performed. These types of abortions are most commonly performed due to fetal defect such as hydrocephaly. The head is collapsed inside before it is removed from the birth canal. That is why it is safer to perform that type of abortion due to that type of fetal defect.
I guess it depends on the facility then. Not all facilities perform abortions and if they don't, they aren't in the practice of collapsing the head, in effect killing the fetus, before delivery.
Was anyone else appalled by McCain's sarcastic, sneering use of air quotes during the debate, when discussing the mother's health regarding late-term abortions? (actual air quotes occur at about 1:30 time stamp in video below)
The man is disgusting. Truly disgusting. I have a feeling he may have pushed a multitude of female undecideds and independents away with that ridiculous, mocking statement. What a chauvinistic a**.
Ironic isnt? A man makes a statement ABOUT abortion and you find that disgusting, but abortion itself.............
By this reasoning, you would be outlawing scalpels.
Um, well, yeah. Exactly.
And morphine for cancer patients...because where there's morphine, there's the potential for people to steal it and abuse it.
And dogs, because some people train dogs to attack people, perhaps kill them.
While we were at it, we'd have to outlaw kitchen knives. Kitchen knives seem to be a popular weapon of choice during domestic issues.
Because something has the potential to be misused or abused doesn't mean we should then outlaw it for every person, in every circumstance. That was my whole point.
I guess it depends on the facility then. Not all facilities perform abortions and if they don't, they aren't in the practice of collapsing the head, in effect killing the fetus, before delivery.
We are talking about early termination of pregnancy due to hydrocephaly.
If the woman chooses to carry to term - there will be a different procedure used to ensure safest delivery depending how how she wishes to handle the situation.
If the woman is terminating early due to fetal defect, ID&E is the safest procedure.
Then maybe you should report the doctor and/or facility with all of the knowledge you profess to have.
This reminds me of all the posters bashing the "millions on welfare driving brand new cars". Report them. Doctors are legally bound to accuracy in reporting. If you have first hand knowledge, it should be reported. Not repeatedly argued here. Please stay on topic okay?
This happened quite a few years ago and I'm sure the records have been destroyed by now; they are not required to keep them past X amount of years. And no way I could prove it. But I know it happened and I know it does happen. And that IS on topic.
This happened quite a few years ago and I'm sure the records have been destroyed by now; they are not required to keep them past X amount of years. And no way I could prove it. But I know it happened and I know it does happen. And that IS on topic.
Ok, again. How do you know this happened? Were you there or did you "hear it from someone".
Ironic isnt? A man makes a statement ABOUT abortion and you find that disgusting, but abortion itself.............
Who's to say politico doesn't find abortion disgusting? We don't know that. Maybe the very thought of an abortion, on a personal level, brings her to tears. How can we know? Maybe she's never had one. That's certainly a possibility, no? But that doesn't mean she doesn't understand that
(deep breath here; preparing to re-re-re-repeat)
...she thinks that this means there are no circumstances under which a woman should have an abortion, even a late-term one, or that she knows everyone's circumstance and can therefore sit in judgment of every woman, everywhere.
Right?
People.
This is what "choice" means. Sometimes the choice is to keep the baby. Sometimes the choice is to give birth to the baby and then give him or her up for adoption. You know? Pro choice. Not "pro-abortion, yippee, abortions are great!" I have never known anyone who thought an abortion was a fantabulous thing.
I was trying to get you to answer the "Obama pays his female employees less" side of it. I was discrediting you as you spun more and more. McCain now "chooses" these women. God forbid they could think or act for themselves. The real sexism is making itself abundantly clear.
I didn't answer the "Obama pays his female employees less" argument you put forth, because it has nothing to do with this thread. If you'd like to have that discussion, then I suggest you open a new thread regarding such. You discredited nothing. I'm not sure what "sexism" you are referring to, which you claim is making itself "abundantly clear," unless you are referring to McCain's sexism, in which case, I agree...he has made it abundantly clear that he is sexist and has no interest in women's rights.
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