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Old 10-24-2008, 02:27 PM
 
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Everyone I know (except my ex-wife) does fend for him/herself, so I can't relate to your claims.

I'm a fireman in NYC. Worked in the ghetto for over 20 years. Trust me when I tell you, there are 2 types of people in the ghetto, hustlers, who work day & night to give their families what they can & do nothings, who work as little as possible & complain about what they don't have. If anybody gets a tax break, I vote for the former.
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:37 PM
 
Location: Northridge/Porter Ranch, Calif.
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(Obama's spending proposal.)

Over how many years is this spread?
I've read that it would cost about $4 trillion if he served 8 years.
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Old 10-24-2008, 02:39 PM
 
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Who said anything about sense? I'm asking you to back up your wild claim.

I, for one, don't want anything for free. I'm proud of working for what I own. I can't be the only one.
So do you believe if most people were handed the good life for free they would turn it down?
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:01 PM
 
Location: Michigan
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Suppose that every day, ten men go out for beer and the bill for all
ten comes to $100. If they paid their bill the way we pay our taxes,
it would go something like this:

The first four men (the poorest) would pay nothing.
The fifth would pay $1.
The sixth would pay $3.
The seventh would pay $7.
The eighth would pay $12.
The ninth would pay $18.
The tenth man (the richest) would pay $59.

The ten men drank in the bar every day and seemed quite happy with the
arrangement, until one day, the owner threw them a curve. 'Since you
are all such good customers, he said, 'I'm going to reduce the cost of
your daily beer by $20. Drinks for the ten now cost just $80.

The group still wanted to pay their bill the way we pay our taxes so
the first four men were unaffected. They would still drink for free.
But what about the other six men - the paying customers? How could
they divide the $20 windfall so that everyone would get his 'fair
share?'
They realized that $20 divided by six is $3.33. But if they subtracted
that from everybody's share, then the fifth man and the sixth man
would each end up being paid to drink his beer. So, the bar owner
suggested that it would be fair to reduce each man's bill by roughly
the same amount, and he proceeded to work out the amounts each should
pay.

And so:

The fifth man, like the first four, now paid nothing (100% savings).
The sixth now paid $2 instead of $3 (33%savings).
The seventh now paid $5 instead of $7 (28%savings).
The eighth now paid $9 instead of $12 (25% savings).
The ninth now paid $14 instead of $18 (22% savings).
The tenth now paid $49 instead of $59 (16% savings).

Each of the six was better off than before And the first four
continued to drink for free. But once outside the restaurant, the men
began to compare their savings.

'I only got a dollar out of the $20', declared the sixth man. He
pointed to the tenth man,' but he got $10!'

'Yeah, that's right', exclaimed the fifth man. 'I only saved a dollar,
too. It's unfair that he got ten times more than I!'

'That's true!!' shouted the seventh man. 'Why should he get $10 back
when I got only two? The wealthy get all the breaks!'

'Wait a minute,' yelled the first four men in unison. 'We didn't get
anything at all. The system exploits the poor!'

The nine men surrounded the tenth and beat him up.

The next night the tenth man didn't show up for drinks, so the nine
sat down and had beers without him. But when it came time to pay the
bill, they discovered something important. They didn't have enough
money between all of them for even half of the bill!

And that, boys and girls , journalists and college professors, is how
our tax system works. The people who pay the highest taxes get the
most benefit from a tax reduction. Tax them too much, attack them for
being wealthy, and they just may not show up anymore. In fact, they
might start drinking overseas where the atmosphere is somewhat
friendlier.

David R. Kamerschen, Ph.D.
Professor of Economics, University of Georgia

For those who understand, no explanation is needed.
For those who do not understand, no explanation is possible.
The University of Georgia's, Professor Kamerschen did not write this. He in a phone interview, said the theory is incorrect and without merit.

I wonder how many places this can be found, as it keeps on being passed around, and continues to create the appearance of fact, which it is not.
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Old 10-29-2008, 09:21 PM
 
Location: Chicagoland
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Note to rightwingers - all taxes spread the wealth
There is a difference in everybody paying their taxes that go to fund programs, infrastructure and governments (local, state, fed), and taking money from some to give to others - 40% of which do not pay taxes.
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