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View Poll Results: Will social health care work?
Social health care is a ridiculous idea and it will FAIL! 31 38.27%
Social health care is GREAT and it will do wonders! 40 49.38%
What is this country coming to.... 10 12.35%
Voters: 81. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 10-25-2008, 01:21 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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How many people think it will actually work? It has proven many times to not work. If you like waiting in DMV lines, then social health care will be right up your ally. I have family/friends in Canada where social health care is practiced. They say if you are really sick, need to see a specialist, or have an operation, you go to the states to have anything done. You will be waiting MONTHS to have anything done in Canada, even if it is life threatening. That sounds GREAT to me!! YAY!!
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:24 PM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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How many people think it will actually work? It has proven many times to not work. If you like waiting in DMV lines, then social health care will be right up your ally. I have family/friends in Canada where social health care is practiced. They say if you are really sick, need to see a specialist, or have an operation, you go to the states to have anything done. You will be waiting MONTHS to have anything done in Canada, even if it is life threatening. That sounds GREAT to me!! YAY!!
I have heard this misnomer time and time again. I also have relatives in Canada--Quebec. And none of them are complaining about their health care. We joke about our system when I am visiting.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:25 PM
 
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this is a waste of a thread. what obama / Biden want to do is a far cry from social healthcare. I suggest you check your facts before posting such rubish.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:29 PM
 
Location: NC
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I have heard this misnomer time and time again. I also have relatives in Canada--Quebec. And none of them are complaining about their health care. We joke about our system when I am visiting.
It is the same in Britain. Not even the Tories will go after the National Health Service and they often make fun of US health care.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:29 PM
 
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this is a waste of a thread. what obama / Biden want to do is a far cry from social healthcare. I suggest you check your facts before posting such rubish.
Amen. But you're expecting a lot of the McCain drones- they just regurgitate whatever their candidate tells them............
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:30 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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I have heard this misnomer time and time again. I also have relatives in Canada--Quebec. And none of them are complaining about their health care. We joke about our system when I am visiting.
Are you kidding me??

My neighbors right now are from Canada, they have a double residency, I was just talking to them about this this morning. They, along with the majority of other Canadians HATE there health care system... Did any of you hear about the social health care system that Hawaii was using... Guess what? It FAILED.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:33 PM
 
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Hope none of you need surgery or timely care in the future. People wait an average of six months for appts., surgery and the like.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:35 PM
 
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I know people in Canada who love their health care.

There will be issues I'm sure but we have issues now.
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Old 10-25-2008, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Portland, Maine
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Are you kidding me??

My neighbors right now are from Canada, they have a double residency, I was just talking to them about this this morning. They, along with the majority of other Canadians HATE there health care system... Did any of you hear about the social health care system that Hawaii was using... Guess what? It FAILED.

Well--your "neighbors" are not the way the majority of Canadians feel. My mom was the oldest of 15---yes, catholic---and I have tons of relatives in Quebec. Not once have I heard a complaint about it other than having to wait once in awhile. (like we don't do that here). Maybe if you stop waving your flag and listen to folks in other countries, you could actually learn something!
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Old 10-25-2008, 02:16 PM
 
Location: Le Grand, Ca
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from a Canadian I found on another site...

No. The Canadian socialized health care system just means everyone has access to a doctor. It doesn't mean they have great health care. They only fund "x" number of procedures a year. When those procedures have been performed, that is it for the year. Politicians campaign on how many of what type of surgeries they will add to the budget that year. Say they only fund 5000 anthroscopic (sp?) knee surgeries a year. If your case is #5001 you either wait until next year or you have the old style surgery with the big long incisions that take forever to heal.

I have a friend in Calgary whose granddaughter was suspected of having stomach cancer. It took three months to get scheduled for a needle biopsy. The day of the biopsy they were at the hospital for 16 hours. When they couldn't do the procedure they didn't say come back tomorrow. They said they would put the granddaughter back on the list and maybe they could get to her in six months.

I have sleep apnea and was told I should be reevaluated every three years. When it was time to be reevaluated I was given a referral by my general practioner. I received a letter from Alberta Health stating that it would be 14 months before I could see a sleep specialist. If I needed to be seen sooner, i.e. my condition was of life-threatening severity, then I should turn in my driver's license to the nearest registry and they would try to get me in sooner.

Also you need to consider how much the system really costs. It's true you don't pay much at all for doctor visits and meds. (I moved back to the U.S. in 2002 so don't remember details like co-pays.) Canadians pay about 50% of their earnings in taxes to pay for everything that their government supplies to everyone - regardless of ability to pay.

Also, to get anything major done, you have to know how to manipulate the system to get to the front of the line. A former co-worker's Canadian wife had a knee problem. I had heard she was at the hospital and expressed my empathy - hoping her condition wasn't very bad. He replied to me - she's fine, you just have to know how to work the system. If you go to the ER you can get follow up treatment sooner than if you go through your regular doctor. Any system that turns the users into liars and manipulators has some serious flaws.
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