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Old 06-29-2009, 11:22 AM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Perhaps you should read rather than listen to clips from what I'm assuming were probably aired on Fox.
No, they weren't aired on Fox, and why does it matter where they were aired....Oh, yeah...that's right...anything on Fox cannot be trusted.

Look. You people are obsessed with hatred for Fox, for no reason other than who founded it. It is a far more reliable source of news than the other networks, who simply will not cover some news, especially if it puts Democrats in a bad light. Then, of course, we had Dan Rather over at CBS actually making things up, and reporting them as truth! Give me a break. There is a reason that these other people are losing money. Nobody is listening/watching! Nobody trusts them.


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The book that I read was Dreams From my Father.
I had a hunch that might be the one.

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Obviously, I completely disagree with what your assesment. It's funny that you're actually naive enough to blame virtually every problem on Democrats.
LOL! Well who is it that has created almost the entire welfare state in this country! Who is it that thinks (can we say "Barney Frank" and all those with him) that home ownership is a Constitutional "right"? Who is in control of the entire Congress right now and bankrupting our nation. Who is it that is creating czars, and one government agency after another to intrude into our lives? Which Party is trying to jamb government health care down our throats, when nobody wants it? Which Party is the "Global Warming, "Cap and Trade" (that's Cap and TAX) party?

Which Party has blocked oil drilling and exploration on our own land for at least 3 decades now, and has virtually ended the building of nuclear power plants? Which Party has so handicapped our public schools with the teaching of nothing but revisionist history, environmental garbage, socialist thought, sexuality subjects, and has virtually ended teaching of academics such as English, Reading, American History (real American History) American Government ... Half of the kids coming out of high school today have no clue how are government works, they think we live in a democracy, not a republic, and most are seriously lacking in reading and comprehension skills, and they cannot write (a reading of a majority of posts on this Forum proves this). They think that "rich people" steal their money from the poor, and they think Wal-Mart is evil. This is the liberal "education" that they get from the government schools.

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I may be a moderate liberal but I don't think that all problems were caused by one party or the other. They're both to blame for this mess and you're right about the economy, it's a long time coming and our response is wrong. Bailouts, however, weren't started by the Obama administration. George H.W. Bush had bailouts way before Obama even thought about becoming president. Bush followed those up and unfortunately, Obama took his lead.
Now that's rich. Bush did it all. Okay. Did Obama have to have, how many, three more? Let's see... the Banks, I think that was Bush, then Mortgage companies (Obama if I'm not mistaken), GM and Chrysler (Obama), AIG (I think that was Obama), then the HUGE spending "pork" so-called stimulus (Obama). I think I've lost track. These are all Democrat spending schemes. And I see that there are way more than three. Not only that, there is talk of another one coming.

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Guess what? The world will go on after four (or even eight) years of Obama. Most of the problems were facing weren't the fault of Obama.
I'm sorry; all of the problems we are now facing are indeed Obama caused. Things were not near this bad before he took office.

The overspending as the result of two wars isn't his fault.[/quote]

The war isn't what put us in the position we are in. And that still doesn't justify Obama's spending spree. More spending is not the solution to reducing spending. This is absolute insanity.

The failing infrastructure wasn't his fault.[/quote] What "failing infrastructure"?

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The hatred that many outside of the U.S. isn't his fault.
That is largely not true. It is Democrat propaganda. It is hype. Why do we have so many people wanting to come here? Up until now, America was still the best hope of the world for freedom and liberty. We have nothing to apologize for. So why is Obama going around the world apologizing?

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Sure, he owns these problems now and I believe he will do his best to deal with even though I don't agree with his stance on ever issue. He will not lead this country to Socialism or whatever else you claim. By the way, it was here (to some degree) before he was born.
He is leading us to a Marxist/Socialist system. That is his purpose. That is what he believes in. Read his words, when he said he was going to "fundamentally change" America. What do you think that means, in light of his political beliefs?
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Old 06-29-2009, 11:49 AM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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No, they weren't aired on Fox, and why does it matter where they were aired....Oh, yeah...that's right...anything on Fox cannot be trusted.

Look. You people are obsessed with hatred for Fox, for no reason other than who founded it. It is a far more reliable source of news than the other networks, who simply will not cover some news, especially if it puts Democrats in a bad light. Then, of course, we had Dan Rather over at CBS actually making things up, and reporting them as truth! Give me a break. There is a reason that these other people are losing money. Nobody is listening/watching! Nobody trusts them.


I had a hunch that might be the one.



LOL! Well who is it that has created almost the entire welfare state in this country! Who is it that thinks (can we say "Barney Frank" and all those with him) that home ownership is a Constitutional "right"? Who is in control of the entire Congress right now and bankrupting our nation. Who is it that is creating czars, and one government agency after another to intrude into our lives? Which Party is trying to jamb government health care down our throats, when nobody wants it? Which Party is the "Global Warming, "Cap and Trade" (that's Cap and TAX) party?

Which Party has blocked oil drilling and exploration on our own land for at least 3 decades now, and has virtually ended the building of nuclear power plants? Which Party has so handicapped our public schools with the teaching of nothing but revisionist history, environmental garbage, socialist thought, sexuality subjects, and has virtually ended teaching of academics such as English, Reading, American History (real American History) American Government ... Half of the kids coming out of high school today have no clue how are government works, they think we live in a democracy, not a republic, and most are seriously lacking in reading and comprehension skills, and they cannot write (a reading of a majority of posts on this Forum proves this). They think that "rich people" steal their money from the poor, and they think Wal-Mart is evil. This is the liberal "education" that they get from the government schools.



Now that's rich. Bush did it all. Okay. Did Obama have to have, how many, three more? Let's see... the Banks, I think that was Bush, then Mortgage companies (Obama if I'm not mistaken), GM and Chrysler (Obama), AIG (I think that was Obama), then the HUGE spending "pork" so-called stimulus (Obama). I think I've lost track. These are all Democrat spending schemes. And I see that there are way more than three. Not only that, there is talk of another one coming.



I'm sorry; all of the problems we are now facing are indeed Obama caused. Things were not near this bad before he took office.

AGREED!!!!


The overspending as the result of two wars isn't his fault.
The war isn't what put us in the position we are in. And that still doesn't justify Obama's spending spree. More spending is not the solution to reducing spending. This is absolute insanity.

The failing infrastructure wasn't his fault.[/quote] What "failing infrastructure"?





That is largely not true. It is Democrat propaganda. It is hype. Why do we have so many people wanting to come here? Up until now, America was still the best hope of the world for freedom and liberty. We have nothing to apologize for. So why is Obama going around the world apologizing?


Because he hates America and wants everyone to hate America and its people.


He is leading us to a Marxist/Socialist system. That is his purpose. That is what he believes in. Read his words, when he said he was going to "fundamentally change" America. What do you think that means, in light of his political beliefs?

Yes, we are heading quickly to the downfall of America as we all know it all because some people will allow themselves to be totally fooled by a man who is nothing more then a scam artist.

[/quote]



Your post are awesome.

Thye hate Fox because Fox reports the real information and anyone who reports against Obama is bad.

Dreams of my Father is a total lie book and people bought it.

If you look back you can see this entire plan unfolding before your eyes.
Give him credit, he had a well thought out plan with the people behind him to dupped millions of people like he did and get away with it.

I bolded one of the most important parts above. This mess is all OBAMA and the liberals controlled congress.


They are using the war to justify Obamas mistakes. He just signed a bill to spend even more then Bush ever spend on the war and they say nothing.

Liberals need to learn how to take blame for what is going on, this mess is Obama and liberal caused.

There excuses are lame, they keep talking about the war, well Obama just spent more then Bush so they cannot use that anymore.
It is all Bush's fault. No, it is not, we were fine until dems took over congress 2 1/2 years ago and started us on the path to socialism.
Obama has spend enough borrowed money most Conservatives would be eaten alive if they spent this much money and FAILED LIKE OBAMA HAS.

By the way, new job numbers out, we have hit a new record LOW thanks to Obama and his policies. Where the hell are the 5 million NEW jobs Obama?

Liberals had beter wake up and quick, it is your party and your leader that will go down in history for the demise of America you are allowing and causing to happen.

No way in hell can anyone find a single important thing that Obama has done to BETTER America.

Wake up before it is to late.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:05 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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LOL! Well who is it that has created almost the entire welfare state in this country!

Answer- Liberals who feel sorry for losers and want to reward them.


Who is it that thinks (can we say "Barney Frank" and all those with him) that home ownership is a Constitutional "right"?

You do not have the right to own a home. It is an earned right and most of those people Clinton put in home have not EARNED their rights to own a home.


Who is in control of the entire Congress right now and bankrupting our nation.

Libs wont talk about that for some reason. I have been pointing this out for a long time on this board and so far no takers. Just excuses and blame Bush.

Which Party is trying to jamb government health care down our throats, when nobody wants it?

They make up fake polls and have their commi networks help them say everyone wants this scam health care and run with it.

Hell no we do not want it, even Obama does not want it and made sure he would be exempt from it.


Which Party is the "Global Warming, "Cap and Trade" (that's Cap and TAX) party?

Typical liberal screw up again.


Which Party has blocked oil drilling and exploration on our own land for at least 3 decades now, and has virtually ended the building of nuclear power plants?

Oil is evil because it makes people rich.



Which Party has so handicapped our public schools with the teaching of nothing but revisionist history, environmental garbage, socialist thought, sexuality subjects, and has virtually ended teaching of academics such as English, Reading, American History (real American History) American Government ...

Yes, I agree I had to deal with one of those liberal fool teacher this past year and believe me I won! I kicked her little butt back to grade school herself as she was using Obama as a weapon or tool to teach liberalism in my grade school kids classroom.

As of last week she is on leave and we are hearing she may not be back next year! Yea! One for the good folks.

Those little recorders come in very handy ya know!

When a 5th grade teacher tells my daughter that abortion is not killing then its time for me to take action and boy I did. She will be working at McDonalds soon!


Then she also preached to them that they need to learn Spanish so they can communicate with the large numbers of latino immigrants coming into the country. She got nailed as one of the kids asked her in class, do you mean all the illegals? I wish I was there!



Half of the kids coming out of high school today have no clue how are government works, they think we live in a democracy, not a republic, and most are seriously lacking in reading and comprehension skills, and they cannot write (a reading of a majority of posts on this Forum proves this). They think that "rich people" steal their money from the poor, and they think Wal-Mart is evil. This is the liberal "education" that they get from the government schools.

Liberals do not want anyone to know how government works, they do not want anyone to go against them therefore the less they know the better off liberals are. Just like guns, Obama wants all your guns so you cannot stand up against his beliefs. This is just one example.


Now that's rich. Bush did it all. Okay. Did Obama have to have, how many, three more? Let's see... the Banks, I think that was Bush,

then Mortgage companies (Obama if I'm not mistaken), GM and Chrysler (Obama), AIG (I think that was Obama), then the HUGE spending "pork" so-called stimulus (Obama).

Stimulous my arse, another big lie. It stimulated us for sure, it has nearly broken down America in 5 months. A new record might I add.


I think I've lost track. These are all Democrat spending schemes. And I see that there are way more than three. Not only that, there is talk of another one coming.

More to come, they are pulling money out of their butts right now. Many here whine about Bush and China, what the hell do they think Obama is doing? He is using Chinas money to destroy America and they sit there and do nothing.



The failing infrastructure wasn't his fault.
What "failing infrastructure"?

They believe that our infrastructure failed all under Bush. What they are not smart enough to know or understand is it has been failing for years and they had control of congress for 30+ years of that time and DID NOTHING!

Thanks liberals, our infrastructure is falling apart thanks to you people and your wrongful spending. Maybe if you had not spend all that money to make welfare people fat and fixed our roads and bridges instead we would not be in this mess.

By they way, where is all those NEW jobs Obama promised to fix our infrastructure at? Guess that was another lie.

He is leading us to a Marxist/Socialist system. That is his purpose.


Yes he is. Exactly what he is all about.



That is what he believes in. Read his words, when he said he was going to "fundamentally change" America. What do you think that means, in light of his political beliefs?[/quote]

This post was so good I had to go back and read and comment again.

I would rep you more but I have to spread it around some.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:43 PM
 
Location: MIA
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What lunch hour, since Obama has destroyed 500,000 jobs most of the formerly employed people are now on welfare or unemployment thanks to Obama.

This is no picnic lunch under Obama, most people are going without lunch because Obama is stealing their lunch money!
Obama is a rebel rousing activist lawyer; he just doesn't understand economics. I think that he thinks that the idea of "government motors" is cool...and anything less than all out socialist healthcare would be an injustice to America's illegal aliens.
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:49 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Sick of it or not, majority of Obama voters are standing in line for the free lunch box of goodies from those of us who have something and actually earned it.

Come on, most, but not all Obama voters are welfare types and you know it. Acorn told them to register and sign the form with an "X" and most of them cannot spell their own name or even write. That is why they had to vote 10 times for Obama, they could not get the X correct!

If you see a car loaded with overweight dirty people and the car is falling apart you bet it is full of Obama voters. The Obama stickers are holding the car together.
"Most" are welfare types? LOL! 53% of the country is "welfare types"? BTW, there is a whole pack of conservatives on here practically 24/7, where do they get their support? Oh, I get it, from someone else, while the rest of us are out working! (I'm on lunch right now.)
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Old 06-29-2009, 12:54 PM
 
Location: SARASOTA, FLORIDA
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"Most" are welfare types? LOL! 53% of the country is "welfare types"? BTW, there is a whole pack of conservatives on here practically 24/7, where do they get their support? Oh, I get it, from someone else, while the rest of us are out working! (I'm on lunch right now.)

Most of us hire liberals to do our work for us, you know, the unskilled ones who cut grass and clean up leaves.

Look at the libs who are on here 24/7, they seem to be eating the free government cheese and getting free wifi from those of us who pay for it with our OWN MONEY.
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Old 06-29-2009, 01:23 PM
 
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Most of us hire liberals to do our work for us, you know, the unskilled ones who cut grass and clean up leaves.

Look at the libs who are on here 24/7, they seem to be eating the free government cheese and getting free wifi from those of us who pay for it with our OWN MONEY.


Conservatives typically in more stable and independent jobs, more highly paid, more highly educated and promoted to leadership positions more frequently. I am one of those. So work when I want.

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Old 06-29-2009, 03:11 PM
 
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He's been president for what? Six months and many of you are stating he's terrible even though he's 1/8 into his term. The guy inherited an economy that was quickly heading south not to mention two wars that cost the country billions and likely helped create the economic free fall. And since that time, he's got to deal with North Korea threatening to launch missiles at Hawaii and a rigged election in Iran. Not an easy six months. And while you may not agree with his politics, you can't say that he hasn't been ambitious. He's definitely attempting to resolve many of these issues and push through some major reforms. I don't agree with everything he's doing but let's not forget, the majority of voters selected him because they trusted his judgement more than John McCain. Let's see how the other 7/8 play out before labeling him a failure.
You didn't talk that way when Bush had the same problems... You just blamed the problems on Bush...
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:24 PM
 
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Let's be honest - everyone complaining about Obama on this thread would be complaining about any Democrat elected and would be complaining about any policy enacted by a Democrat.

Why?

Because it is a different philosophy.

What's intriguing is that you philosophy failed and was the very reason why we have Obama.

I think he's doing a great job, myself.
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Old 06-29-2009, 03:29 PM
 
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"Most" are welfare types? LOL! 53% of the country is "welfare types"? BTW, there is a whole pack of conservatives on here practically 24/7, where do they get their support? Oh, I get it, from someone else, while the rest of us are out working! (I'm on lunch right now.)
"(I'm on lunch right now.)"

Maybe you are out with her..


YouTube - Obama Is Going To Pay For My Gas And Mortgage!!!


"BTW, there is a whole pack of conservatives on here practically 24/7, where do they get their support?"

I'm an Independent and I'm retired.
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