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Old 11-02-2012, 03:23 AM
 
Location: Iowa, Heartland of Murica
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First enlighten us what kind of wealth he has. Facts please.
Most Russians live in total denial. You sound exactly like a Russian "friend" of mine. You can present her with all types of facts about how ****ed up Russia is, she will still deny it.

I mean, if Russia is such a wonderful place, why are these people living here in the USA? They should go back to Russia, if it is such a good country and they love it so much, YET, they continue to live here in the USA
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Old 11-02-2012, 04:14 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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Most Russians live in total denial. You sound exactly like a Russian "friend" of mine. You can present her with all types of facts about how ****ed up Russia is, she will still deny it.

I mean, if Russia is such a wonderful place, why are these people living here in the USA? They should go back to Russia, if it is such a good country and they love it so much, YET, they continue to live here in the USA
Most of them went leave (emigration(they do not know another life) to Soviet times and now it is the birthplace of America. In Europe, today, people are returning from Europe to Russia and the only Russian but also foreign. As for Putin, as far as I know he is very rich.As for the topic, this is as is often done in the Western media. If you read the Western media is the feeling that we are living on Mars. Show me an example of positive articles or news about Russia? They were apparently not at all. I can tell you that even Wikipedia often provides no valid information (I check)

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Old 11-02-2012, 04:41 AM
 
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Most Russians live in total denial. You sound exactly like a Russian "friend" of mine. You can present her with all types of facts about how ****ed up Russia is, she will still deny it.
Please present me with your facts.

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YET, they continue to live here in the USA
Why do you blame Russians for what some Americans are doing or not?
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:05 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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I mean, if Russia is such a wonderful place, why are these people living here in the USA? They should go back to Russia, if it is such a good country and they love it so much, YET, they continue to live here in the USA
This is actually a very good point. Even after the revolution, there were people who longed to return to the Motherland. A few did, which was very foolish. But nowadays, there's no such longing, no one's interested in returning. If it were true that life has improved there significantly, some might go back, but there's no stampede. To the contrary, corruption is getting worse, some of the liberalization of the 90's and development of civil society has been quashed, rule of law is a joke. Though the standard of living may be inching upwards for the rank-and-file, this isn't enough to draw expats back.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:42 PM
 
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But nowadays, there's no such longing, no one's interested in returning.
A lot of people return. There are no stats, because they are not immigrants, but such people are everywhere - and they often trash US/EU/Canada/Israel online.
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Old 11-02-2012, 02:46 PM
 
Location: State of Transition
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A lot of people return. There are no stats, because they are not immigrants, but such people are everywhere - and they often trash US/EU/Canada/Israel online.
Jews, returning TO Russia? That's one I'd have to see to believe.

So, if this wave of returnees really exists, why aren't you joining them on the internet? We're not worth your time.
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:28 PM
 
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Jews, returning TO Russia? That's one I'd have to see to believe.
I don't know if any Jews return, but lots of Russians returned from Israel.

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So, if this wave of returnees really exists, why aren't you joining them on the internet? We're not worth your time.
I'm just having fun here. But you are currently quite dispiseful - that's not fun...
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:41 PM
 
Location: FIN
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Jews, returning TO Russia? That's one I'd have to see to believe.

So, if this wave of returnees really exists, why aren't you joining them on the internet? We're not worth your time.
If there are 3, 4, or 5 of them, and they are on an internet forum, it can qualify as "a lot" to someone Why don't they join us on this forum
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Old 11-02-2012, 03:48 PM
 
Location: New York City
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Most Russians live in total denial. You sound exactly like a Russian "friend" of mine. You can present her with all types of facts about how ****ed up Russia is, she will still deny it.

I mean, if Russia is such a wonderful place, why are these people living here in the USA? They should go back to Russia, if it is such a good country and they love it so much, YET, they continue to live here in the USA
There are more as ten millions Russian emigrants in western countries, only a couple of thousands went back.
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Old 11-02-2012, 06:53 PM
 
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There are more as ten millions Russian emigrants in western countries, only a couple of thousands went back.
Why would they?
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