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View Poll Results: Best European Cities
Amsterdam, Netherlands 18 21.43%
Athens, Greece 3 3.57%
Berlin, Germany 21 25.00%
Copenhagen, Denmark 12 14.29%
Dublin, Ireland 9 10.71%
Helsinki, Finland 5 5.95%
Istanbul, Turkey 10 11.90%
London, U.K. 33 39.29%
Madrid, Spain 9 10.71%
Monte Carlo, Monaco 7 8.33%
Moscow, Russia 5 5.95%
Oslo, Norway 13 15.48%
Paris, France 44 52.38%
Rome, Italy 17 20.24%
Stockholm, Sweden 10 11.90%
Vienna, Austria 16 19.05%
Other (Please list your choice in a post.) 11 13.10%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 84. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 03-14-2012, 05:11 PM
 
Location: Southaven, Mississippi
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Well, then, you've answered your question. You're from MS and the Mediterranean climate doesn't appeal to you? Dry days and cool nights in summer? I won't argue on any of your observations except for Amsterdam/Venice. Seeing Venice in real life is mesmerizing, if you go in the "shoulder season" and mid-week, and avoid the crowds. The craftsmanship in the architecture is one-of-a-kind.
Just because I am from MS doesn't mean I like mild winters and hot, humid summers. I'm actually moving to the Twin Cities in Minnesota soon so I can't wait!

Thanks for your suggestion! I will keep Venice in mind when planning my European vacation.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:12 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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These arent listed but my favorite are Genoa, Italy and Barcelona, Spain
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: Southaven, Mississippi
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Dublin is expensive but has high QOL. The residents are supposedly nice.
Paris is beautiful, but don't know how one who isn't French would mesh in.
Amsterdam, and the Dutch, are a little too stoic for my taste.
I'm told the Irish are friendly and welcoming.

I heard it's hard to fit in Paris unless you can speak native-like French. Otherwise, it's better to visit than living.

What do you mean by Amsterdam and the Dutch being too stoic for your taste? How is it painful and hardship unless you mean you can't accept their liberal attitudes and values?
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:27 PM
 
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What do you mean by Amsterdam and the Dutch being too stoic for your taste? How is it painful and hardship unless you mean you can't accept their liberal attitudes and values?
I get along better with vocal and obnoxious people. They make life more interesting. Birds of a feather. That's why the cities I picked were in southern Europe.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Paris
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What about living in Dublin, Paris, or Amsterdam?

Is that true that unlike most European cities, Paris tends to push poor people out to suburbs while the city center is only for those who can afford it?
I'd say it's the same thing pretty much all over Europe. City centers are often the richest parts, older working class districts in the center or bordering it are gentrifying in most places. Though there are some exceptions like Marseille or Brussels where gentrification doesn't seem that strong.
As for poor people being kicked outside Paris city, it's true. But I think that even more than the poor, it's the middle class that is leaving the city center. There, only the poor that can live in social housing and the rich that can afford it are left.
Btw, out of the 10 millions living in Paris metro, 2 live in the city and 10 million in the suburbs, so don't buy the media oversimplifications like "Paris's suburbs are poor/ghettoes". Some are but most aren't.
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Old 03-14-2012, 05:33 PM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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In the UK it's the opposite, the inner city is very poor and deprived and the suburbs are the richest parts where most people want to live.
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Old 03-14-2012, 08:56 PM
 
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You are moving?

I'm not sure if I'd call it "suburbs", but the outskirts of Paris aren't pretty, to say the least.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:40 PM
 
Location: Paris
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Do you happen to believe that every "suburb" of Paris looks like this ?

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Cause if it's not the case, I have a hard time considering these ugly...

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Yeah, places like Versailles, Sceaux, Saint Maur, Vincennes, Neuilly are ugly as hell.
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Old 03-14-2012, 09:47 PM
 
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Do you happen to believe that every "suburb" of Paris looks like this ?

clichy sous bois - Recherche Google



Cause if it's not the case, I have a hard time considering these ugly...

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le vesinet - Recherche Google

Yeah, places like Versailles, Sceaux, Saint Maur, Vincennes, Neuilly are ugly as hell.
Your point?
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Old 03-14-2012, 11:36 PM
 
Location: Jacksonville/Afghanistan
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Vienna is a nice city. It's not too big or crowded. It's quiet but there is still a lot of stuff to do. If I could speak German that's where I'd like to live.
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