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I have served abroad for my country in numerous diplomatic missions (albeit as an IT contractor) and have stated that the UK and France appear to have more diversity within the ranks of their civil, diplomatic, and security services.
At least among the lower level personnel.
What I asked dude, was for you to show me a bio of a person of color from Germany or another Euro country that has a senior level diplomatic, security, or civil service post?
You didn't ask me for anything dude, because the above was my first post to the thread.
I've got a feeling you're just on the wind-up (in which case you've done a semi-decent job ). Otherwise, your diatribes just make too little sense even to follow, let alone lend support to - whether the observations you claim to have made (how do you know from a few weeks of travelling that immigrants to Europe 'don't want' to integrate, just for starters?), or the bizarre conflation of the issue of non-white representation in national office with that of the integration of new migrants.
To glean one possible meaningful line of discussion from the mess, I would agree that you can find more non-white people in positions of authority in the US than in Europe (if we can generalise about those two huge places for a second). This is to be expected on account of the US having a far larger non-white population historically. I don't see anything to make me think one or the other does a better job of helping first or second generation immigrants into such roles.
It's a fairly obvious mistake to talk about integration of immigrants as though it's purely a question of how much they want to integrate. That's a very important part of the equation and if they don't want to that can be a problem, but if the regime or the population of the country of arrival is hostile - and hostility often takes the form of simple racism rather than any reasoned critique of the economic stresses of immigration - then integration is also terribly damaged.
As for your quips to non-white American friends about them having it good compared to in Europe - neither region has much to boast about in the longer scheme of things, and although people in both are, belatedly, making some good efforts to put things straight, I would say white Americans and Europeans would both do well to avoid any grandstanding on the matter of their region's record on ethnic integration.
I guess you're speaking about muslim immigrants who mainly refuse any integration, strongly depend on government's subsidies and want to establish caliphates with Sharia law in European countries. In difference to USA, Canada etc. EU countries can not chose themselves immigrants, they are obliged to allow all poor, uneducated, criminal Muslim immigrants to live in Europa and to get benefits any kind they want.It is happened because socialist EU want probably to replace european native folks by immigrants from the poor muslim countries.
I've officially gotten a bias against Americans.
The EU countries actually enjoy the highest quality of life and disposable income, the immigration attempts in the EU are painstakingly high, from the US even.
Be we, Europeans, which you are grouping some of the worlds most diverse countries into one category, as a continent, recognize when there are black ambassadors.
Or anyone in military.
No, we don't. You're being extremely ignorant and drawing a childish conclusion that all of Europe will fail with absolutely mediocre and poor experience, are saying people who live in these countries are wrong. I haven't seen such ignorance on these forums ever.
Few things wrong with your post -
1) Europe is a continent, not a country. Each country operates differently, and has more or less immigrants. Denmark and Italy? Vastly, widely, utterly different nations within the EU.
2) Minorities are less common, so odds are you will have less of them in higher power. Just common sense, it's like filling a red ball pool with a few dozen green balls, and the ones on top are in power. Odds are, red shows.
3) You spent less than three weeks in Europe, how can you judge? We're again not states, but countries. With our own governments, culture, living conditions, way we operate, etc.
4) How are immigrants bad for the economy? Isn't that in itself an ignorant biased comment? You can make no such call on Europe and put up an argument we don't have enough.
OMG, Read my post and then reply.
if you dont respond to my post directly I will not respond to you.
Your only meritous point--although further data support is necessary--is that there are less minorities in Europe so there are less of them with good jobs.
Maybe, but I think if one were to amend for population numbers my thesis would still hold.
In Brussels, there's quite a lot of people from African and Middle-Eastern descent serving in administrations, public offices, police force. Admittedly, Brussels is by far the most multicultural city of the country. It's a lot less diverse in other parts of Belgium, especially outside the bigger cities.
Although I think you're painting with too broad a brush on this issue, Datafeed, I also believe you do have a point. Lots of European countries wrestle with immigration and its consequences, Belgium included. There's quite a lot of resentment among many native, average Europeans, as they feel immigration has been forced upon them.
In terms of percentage, many more immigrants are on welfare/ unemployed than natives. Also in the crime statistics, immigrants are disproportionally represented. These facts create resentment - on both sides. Here it's often observed that the fourth generation of (especially) North African and Turkish people are less integrated than their parents and grand-parents.
So is there a immigration problem. Yes. But give us some slack, as we were not meant to be immigration countries in the first place.
Really. Show me. I dont believe it. I worked in various US missions to EU nations and never once saw a non french or non UK mid level or above civil servant who was not native.
As I said, I worked in the headquarters of NATO--well iSAF-- in Kabul and never once saw a non white EU person above Maj. I saw many black, Mexican, asian, and even Arab American Cols, intelligence officers, and dip;lomats
I guess you're speaking about muslim immigrants who mainly refuse any integration, strongly depend on government's subsidies and want to establish caliphates with Sharia law in European countries. In difference to USA, Canada etc. EU countries can not chose themselves immigrants, they are obliged to allow all poor, uneducated, criminal Muslim immigrants to live in Europa and to get benefits any kind they want.It is happened because socialist EU want probably to replace european native folks by immigrants from the poor muslim countries.
So dont let them in. But even the pols and romanians are relegated to lower level jobs.
if you dont respond to my post directly I will not respond to you.
Your only meritous point--although further data support is necessary--is that there are less minorities in Europe so there are less of them with good jobs.
Maybe, but I think if one were to amend for population numbers my thesis would still hold.
Spaghetti eater? That says a lot about your worldview, Bubba.
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). Otherwise, your diatribes just make too little sense even to follow, let alone lend support to - whether the observations you claim to have made (how do you know from a few weeks of travelling that immigrants to Europe 'don't want' to integrate, just for starters?), or the bizarre conflation of the issue of non-white representation in national office with that of the integration of new migrants. 
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