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Old 06-07-2013, 01:34 PM
 
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Do you think Ireland has a lot in common with other northern European countries such as France, Iceland, the UK, Norway, Sweden, Germany, etc? Or would you say it has more in common with North America?

Ireland seems sort of separate from the rest of Europe, even moreso than the UK does. The UK has strong historic ties to France, Germany and Scandinavia. Ireland seems more akin to the Canary Islands, Greenland or Bermuda - it's an island that's been colonized by different groups of Europeans over the ages but has always sort of been its "own thing" due to its isolation.

Until recently the Irish were seen as a race distinct from "white people" as well, even though genetically speaking it was absurd to think that.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:43 PM
 
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As a cliché, Ireland could be seen as a little brother of Britain : same climate, same (nowadays) language, same island position, close (violent) history...
It is right that outside Britain, Ireland has few links with continental Europe, excepted the Celtic language of Britanny. But as America has been settled by almost all European countries, so each one of them can revendicate a privileged link.
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Old 06-07-2013, 01:48 PM
 
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Do you think Ireland has a lot in common with other northern European countries such as France, Iceland, the UK, Norway, Sweden, Germany, etc? Or would you say it has more in common with North America?

Ireland seems sort of separate from the rest of Europe, even moreso than the UK does. The UK has strong historic ties to France, Germany and Scandinavia. Ireland seems more akin to the Canary Islands, Greenland or Bermuda - it's an island that's been colonized by different groups of Europeans over the ages but has always sort of been its "own thing" due to its isolation.

Until recently the Irish were seen as a race distinct from "white people" as well, even though genetically speaking it was absurd to think that.

in sofar as political alignment goes , Ireland is more European than the uk but much less so than the likes of the Netherlands , Germany , belguim etc , culturally Ireland is much closer to the uk than mainland Europe , Ireland has no baggage like the uk visa vie Europev however

the only time irish people were viewed as separate from whites was in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century in America when the country was still prejudiced against anyone who wasn't a WASP , hence the absurd term " white ethnic " which encompasses poles , Italians , irish , even germans who were catholic
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Old 06-08-2013, 02:56 AM
 
Location: SE UK
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I actually see Ireland as closer to Europe than the UK, perhaps I see it that way because they use the Euro?
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Old 06-08-2013, 03:33 AM
 
Location: Vancouver, Canada
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Irealnd feels more European than UK
they use Euro, their houses look more European too
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:16 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Do you think Ireland has a lot in common with other northern European countries such as France, Iceland, the UK, Norway, Sweden, Germany, etc? Or would you say it has more in common with North America?

Ireland seems sort of separate from the rest of Europe, even moreso than the UK does. The UK has strong historic ties to France, Germany and Scandinavia. Ireland seems more akin to the Canary Islands, Greenland or Bermuda - it's an island that's been colonized by different groups of Europeans over the ages but has always sort of been its "own thing" due to its isolation.

Until recently the Irish were seen as a race distinct from "white people" as well, even though genetically speaking it was absurd to think that.
Honestly I think us British isles people have nothing in common with Europe. Maybe from an american perspective but not from a european perspective.

I would say once again the closest country is UK but outside that not really anywhere specific.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:18 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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in sofar as political alignment goes , Ireland is more European than the uk but much less so than the likes of the Netherlands , Germany , belguim etc , culturally Ireland is much closer to the uk than mainland Europe , Ireland has no baggage like the uk visa vie Europev however

the only time irish people were viewed as separate from whites was in the late nineteenth and early twentieth century in America when the country was still prejudiced against anyone who wasn't a WASP , hence the absurd term " white ethnic " which encompasses poles , Italians , irish , even germans who were catholic
I think England is more european especially with their buildings and all of the immigrants.
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Old 06-08-2013, 04:19 AM
 
Location: North West Northern Ireland.
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Irealnd feels more European than UK
they use Euro, their houses look more European too
Have you seen the houses in London? LOL. They are so crap and small.

The animals we have here not really all european and we actually have some of our own animals.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:23 AM
 
Location: Leeds, UK
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To be honest, I think the UK 'feels' more European if you exclude the fact that Ireland uses Euros and has km on its road signs as opposed to miles. I think cities like Oxford and Cambridge have a more typical 'classy and sophisticated' feel to them that you might associate with continental European cities, as opposed to cities like Cork or Lerwick. I also think the UK has embraced inner-city living more than Ireland, and has opted for constructing more dense housing accommodation in recent years as opposed to sprawling housing estates, especially since the dawn of the financial crisis, probably a realisation that constructing sprawling houses based around the car is not sustainable in the long-run. Our major cities have also been constructing extensive metro systems over the past 15 years or so. The Manchester Metrolink really does put the Luas in Dublin to shame, and both cities are of a similar size - the key difference being, Dublin is the capital and largest city of its respective country, Manchester is not.
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Old 06-08-2013, 08:25 AM
 
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To be honest, I think the UK 'feels' more European if you exclude the fact that Ireland uses Euros and has km on its road signs as opposed to miles. I think cities like Oxford and Cambridge have a more typical 'classy and sophisticated' feel to them that you might associate with continental European cities, as opposed to cities like Cork or Lerwick.

" lerwick "

I think you mean limerick
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