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I often compare the Tyroleans and Bavarians (not Franconians and Swabians). I noticed that they have almost the same culture: clothes, music, dialects. Is this true?
So some Bavarians are Tyrolean, but not all of them. And not all Tyroleans are Bavarians!
Tyroleans are either from Italy or Austria... They are certainly not Bavarians since those people have their roots in the federal state of Bavaria, formerly known as the Kingdom of Bavaria.
Both groups mostly use a Bavarian dialect, though, which is probably what you wanted to suggest by that statement. I don't consider myself to be a Bavarian just because I speak a (Austro-)Bavarian dialect.
Tyroleans are either from Italy or Austria... They are certainly not Bavarians since those people have their roots in the federal state of Bavaria, formerly known as the Kingdom of Bavaria.
Both groups mostly use a Bavarian dialect, though, which is probably what you wanted to suggest by that statement. I don't consider myself to be a Bavarian just because I speak a (Austro-)Bavarian dialect.
True. I was speaking more from a cultural and linguistic perspective. Tyrol itself is only in Austria and Italy, but the clothing style, dialect, etc can be found in areas of the German Alps near the Austrian and Italian Tyrol as well. There's some overlap.
Having been to both areas I don't see much of a similarity. They may have been effected at one time by the Celts but, over the centuries, each has developed their own cultures.
Is there still a movement in Austrian and Italian Tyrol to unite as one government entity? There was when I was there in the late 70s to even include some militant activities.
Is there still a movement in Austrian and Italian Tyrol to unite as one government entity? There was when I was there in the late 70s to even include some militant activities.
Yeah, there used to be the BAS, which was responsible for the Feuernacht. Some members still have to stay in Northern Tyrol because they would face persecution in Italy, if they choose to return. The BAS had supporters in Southern Tyrol, who genuinely fought for the right of self-determination, and Austria, mostly people who support the idea of German nationalism and members of the FPÖ. Oddly enough, most Austrian supporters came from Vienna and not from Northern Tyrol like one would assume. They were just troublemakers...
Nowadays, there seems to be broad consensus that the status quo is quite convenient for both sides... They enjoy autonomy, most tax revenues stay in Südtirol, public authorities are obliged to use German and because of the European Union it doesn't really matter if they have Austrian or Italian citizenship. Special agreements between Austria and the regional government of Southern Tyrol say that students from Southern Tyrol enjoy the very same rights as students from Austria (no fees, ...), so they can conveniently study in one of the Austrian university towns.
Die Freiheitlichen (The Freedomites): The political offshoot of our FPÖ. Far-right. They propose the creation of a South Tyrolean independent and sovereign "Freistaat". 17.9% at the regional election. Hard to tell, if people who vote them actually want independence for Southern Tyrol or if they just like their far-right/xenophobic agenda.
Südtiroler Schützenbund (something like "South Tyrolean Marksmen Association"): Tyrolean traditionalists that have their roots in the battles against Napoleonic France. They aren't a political party, but rather a club or interest group. There is also a Schützenbund in Northern Tyrol.
They often stage protests against the government in Rome and insist on the right of self-determination.
They admire the life of Andreas Hofer. A song about his unlawful execution is sung on official occasions in Southern Tyrol and is the official anthem of Tyrol in Austria. http://www.schuetzen.com/uploads/pic...von_Rom_03.jpg ("Away from Rome")
I second that. The most obvious similarity are Lederhosen. But even they look pretty unique in Tyrol.
Some areas in Salzburg and Upper Austria (Innviertel) are pretty much like Southern Bavaria.
Real ones are easier traced than car tags - down to the family tree.
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