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Old 04-29-2017, 02:07 PM
 
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Just research the Kalergi plan. Its a real thing.
Just research it. Same load of bullcrock as "just google it". If you really want to make a point: provide the links, the books, the articles, the journals and so on. Otherwise, it is just nonsense.
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Old 04-29-2017, 06:45 PM
 
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South Africa received massive immigration from other African countries.
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Old 05-04-2017, 11:56 AM
 
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It seems to be a general theme, that most people assume that 50 million non-Euopeans moving to Europe is expected, and anything less, and Europeans are racist, intolerant, scum of the planet types of people. Isn't it hypocritical that it isn't reciprocal?

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The Europeans entered and greatly transformed Africa. They drew borders that made no sense, cutting through and separating ethnically contiguous regions, enforcing European languages and mores, and then ultimately forcing Africans to adjust to a world dominated by Europeans.


Europeans are really hilarious when they scream about how immigrants are changing their cultures. In fact most of the immigrants to France and Portugal come from former colonies, or from existing overseas territories.


As a Jamaican comic commentator said in the early 60s "the English came to colonize us, and now Jamaicans are off to colonize England". Her reaction to English rants about the then West Indian migration to that country that did in fact transform the UK and also what being "British" is.


It will shock many to hear what the British think that their national dish is........its not fish and chips or shepherds pie.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:00 PM
 
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If you need to ask such a question, there is no point of having this conversation.


England had a meltdown when India said that they wanted them out.


And to think that some one would seriously query what the British got out of the Caribbean colonies in the 17th and 18th centuries or out of India in the 19th.


Most assuredly the UK would never have become the world super power that they were until WWII. A tiny nation with limited resources, but which benefitted mightily from extracting wealth from its colonies.
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Old 05-04-2017, 12:05 PM
 
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What made Europe rich was trade, ..


Yes. Setting up and dominating systems of extracting gold, sugar and other commodities from the Americas in the 16th-18th centuries and then cotton, etc. from India in the 19th. India also becoming a huge market for industrial products.


In fact European domination of global trading systems played a tremendous role in generating the wealth that funded the innovation which led to the Industrial Revolution. Any wonder how come it was the UK, France and the Netherlands which were the richest nations in Europe?
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