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Old 11-20-2014, 12:03 PM
 
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sweden is probably the most americanized country in the world outside the US, I never understood why swedish people copy just about everything American, its almost as if sweden lacked an identity.
sorry, that sad titles belongs to Canada.
Our news has been talking about snow storms in the US for three days and it is not even "international news".
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:05 PM
 
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Some countries (like Norway) have adopted Halloween. I do not think Thanksgiving will catch on. Is not Thanksgiving basically about eating turkey and watching (American) football? That sounds pretty boring.
Halloween didn't originate from America.
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:10 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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sorry, that sad titles belongs to Canada.
Our news has been talking about snow storms in the US for three days and it is not even "international news".
Maybe your news in Toronto has, since Buffalo is so close. In Vancouver...a passing mention.

However it was featured on BBC in their US/Canada section on BBC UK

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-30126046
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Finland
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I don't want to celebrate thanksgiving, as we already have an own harvest feast, kekri.

During kekri you ate meatballs made of things you had harvested, and lamb, beer and fish. You also invited your deceased to feast, then you sang, danced and played. In many villages it was celebrated in potluck fashion, one farm was the host and everyone gathered there with their foods. Sometimes also carnivals. As in agricultural societies the harvest and preparing for winter was the end of that year, there was future telling and searching for good omens. After the feast the maids and other servants were free to visit their homes for two weeks.

Of course this was a pagan ritual from the beginning, and slowly christianised before it was eventually forgotten. Today only neopagans celebrate it, but it could be fun to revive this tradition.
That sounds fun. Time to revive kekri!!
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:15 PM
 
Location: Vancouver
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Some countries (like Norway) have adopted Halloween. I do not think Thanksgiving will catch on. Is not Thanksgiving basically about eating turkey and watching (American) football? That sounds pretty boring.
Thanksgiving in Canada has some similarities to the US one, but there are differences. We don't do the pilgrim thing, it's all about the harvest. We celebrate it in October, not November. We do have turkey or ham. It isn't a big travel day like it is in the US, where people travel great distances to be with their family.

Also

Canada's first Thanksgiving: Frobisher set stage for our celebrations in different spirit than U.S.
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:17 PM
 
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Halloween didn't originate from America.
Exactly, several European countries had pagan celebrations on that date about the end of the harvest season and beginning of winter, that later became Christianized, long before the US even existed, totally different form Thanksgiving which is completely American.
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Old 11-20-2014, 12:19 PM
 
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I don't want to celebrate thanksgiving, as we already have an own harvest feast, kekri.

During kekri you ate meatballs made of things you had harvested, and lamb, beer and fish. You also invited your deceased to feast, then you sang, danced and played. In many villages it was celebrated in potluck fashion, one farm was the host and everyone gathered there with their foods. Sometimes also carnivals. As in agricultural societies the harvest and preparing for winter was the end of that year, there was future telling and searching for good omens. After the feast the maids and other servants were free to visit their homes for two weeks.

Of course this was a pagan ritual from the beginning, and slowly christianised before it was eventually forgotten. Today only neopagans celebrate it, but it could be fun to revive this tradition.
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That sounds fun. Time to revive kekri!!
I agree, I'd be totally down to revive this, even the name sounds fun.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:02 PM
 
Location: M I N N E S O T A
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sorry, that sad titles belongs to Canada.
Our news has been talking about snow storms in the US for three days and it is not even "international news".
That is not a sad title!
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:11 PM
 
Location: Eastwood, Orlando FL
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I always do prime rib or some sort of Roast for Christmas. Sometimes we do a turkey or ham too.
Thanksgiving is more than just Turkey and football. I actually prefer Thanksgiving to Christmas. All of the food and family time but less of the pressure of gifts for Christmas. Thanksgiving is awesome.
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Old 11-20-2014, 01:18 PM
 
Location: Finland
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That sounds fun. Time to revive kekri!!
In medieval times and early modern times one of the important features was the kekripukki, technically the evil twin of Santa Claus. The band of the kekripukki consisted often of young men and women in costumes, accompanied by the female elf of plenty. The band in scary costumes left on the second day of kekri with empty stomaches to tour nearby villages and demanded tribute of yesterday's leftovers. The strongest or the most handsome man in the village was assigned to guard and treat the kekripukki, while the rest of the band enjoyed free meals. If the band and the kekripukki was content with the offerings, the village was protected by evil spirits and the elf of plenty promised a good harvest next year, and moved on to the next village.

The theme was technically the same as in trick-or-treating, except this was made by adults, and children only in the receving village could participate. Though cheap houses or villages sometimes were a target of minor violence or contempt by the band, mostly the idea was to continue the feast with other people you knew anyway.

The church, as this was technically witchcraft, banned it and this tradition disappeared in the 1700's.
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