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View Poll Results: Will Greece Get Yet Another Deadline?
Unlimited, as they come 12 50.00%
This is the ultimatum for sure 12 50.00%
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:52 PM
 
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Well, Athens is gaining more allies these last few days. The rest of europe is realizing that they are in deep *hit with a greek default and exit and also realize the problem lies with fraudulent banks that were feeding on the scam via lending.


http://rt.com/news/272461-tsipras-eu...ders-brussels/
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Old 07-09-2015, 04:55 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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To really understand the crisis and the master scammers (banksters) you must read this.

click here:

http://www.nationofchange.org/2015/0...ampaign=buffer
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:09 PM
 
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Well, Athens is gaining more allies these last few days. The rest of europe is realizing that they are in deep *hit with a greek default and exit and also realize the problem lies with fraudulent banks that were feeding on the scam via lending.


http://rt.com/news/272461-tsipras-eu...ders-brussels/
You are reading RT - short for Russia Today, one of the many websites Russia has propped in the hybrid warfare against the West. This website will only write negative (or paranoid, or their propagandist state TV's alternate reality) POV on the West.

These websites prop up near the top in your Google search not by chance at all.

Anyways, I suggest you stick to solid publishers - British, Americans, etc.

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Old 07-09-2015, 05:25 PM
 
Location: City of North Las Vegas, NV
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You are reading RT - short for Russian Television, one of the many websites Russia has propped in the hybrid warfare against the West. This website will only write negative (or paranoid, or their propagandist state TV's alternate reality) POV on the West.

These websites prop up near the top in your Google search not by chance at all.

Anyways, I suggest you stick to solid publishers - British, Americans, etc.
You got to be kidding! The media of BBC, CBS, FOX and the likes? There are more lies coming out of their mouths in one minute that RT can't combine in a century! Don't matter that RT is based in RUssia. They have also offices in the west like in London, US and many of their reporters are americans that got fed up with their country and its absurd propaganda machine that wants to numb its viewers brains. You want to hear another different point of view that you couldn't even imagine here in the US which comes closer to the truth? Don't listen to mainstream media; everyone is coming to realize that in the US.
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Old 07-09-2015, 05:27 PM
 
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You are reading RT - short for Russian Television, one of the many websites Russia has propped in the hybrid warfare against the West. This website will only write negative (or paranoid, or their propagandist state TV's alternate reality) POV on the West.

These websites prop up near the top in your Google search not by chance at all.

Anyways, I suggest you stick to solid publishers - British, Americans, etc.
Lol what the hell are talking about Wow the stupidity of some people is.... lol, just wow. Is learning the truth so scary???
Anyway as you were so offended by the RT message & pointing your musket at your computer screen, don't pull the trigger just yet BBC ( British media ) link below tells the same story, with less scary words just for you.
How 'magic' made Greek debt disappear before it joined the euro - BBC News
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Old 07-10-2015, 07:00 AM
 
Location: Finland
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Do people still care? It is getting tiring. Endless talk and "negotiation".

The Euro Zone doesn't seem to have a bottom line. If it keeps showing that it is so reluctant to accept a Grexit, Greece will keep taking advantage of that.

If the EZ decides to compromise again, Greece will definitely default again. And if the EZ can't survive without Greece, it probably shouldn't exist at all.
If the Grexit happens, the Greeks will not pay anything of their debt and ultimately closed from the international credit market. If Greece remains in the €, we might get 10-20-30% of the debts. Someday.
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:20 PM
 
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Do people still care? It is getting tiring. Endless talk and "negotiation".

The Euro Zone doesn't seem to have a bottom line. If it keeps showing that it is so reluctant to accept a Grexit, Greece will keep taking advantage of that.

If the EZ decides to compromise again, Greece will definitely default again. And if the EZ can't survive without Greece, it probably shouldn't exist at all.

the Eurozone is inherently problematic as it is a collection of economies operating under one currency despite huge contrasts in the nature of those economies

it simply doesn't suit the southern European members to have the same currency as Germany , the only way the single currency will succeed long term is if there is complete integration politically , a united states of Europe effectively

as for a deal , there will be one , the usa wont allow either Greece or Germany to cause another 2008 style crisis over mere principals , beit Germanys doctrinaire attitude to fiscal discipline or greek opposition to so called austerity

Greece will be treated as a special case for the foreseeable future , every few years it will be bailed out , all in the name of not rupturing what is a contrived form of grouping
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Old 07-11-2015, 01:30 PM
 
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I agree, it's terrible what has happened but Greece is far away. Everytime I turn on the BBC news it's all I hear, I don't really care to be honest.

It isn't going to have any effect on me anyway as I am not in a eurozone country.
so you think the uk is completely insulated from the happenings in the second most important economic area in the world ?
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Old 07-11-2015, 03:11 PM
 
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The BBC has reported on its web site that at the meeting of Eurozone finance ministers tonight that Finland has said that it will refuse to support a third bailout for Greece. If that is true, it will make it far easier for some of the Baltic and eastern Europeans who have expressed strong negative feelings to just say,"Neither will we."
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:37 PM
 
Location: Singapore
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I agree, it's terrible what has happened but Greece is far away. Everytime I turn on the BBC news it's all I hear, I don't really care to be honest.

It isn't going to have any effect on me anyway as I am not in a eurozone country.
Hmm, your location says Londonderry so I'm assuming that's in Northern Ireland. Dude, Londonderry isn't exactly that far away from Greece for you to not feel any ripples.

For the sake of hypothesis, the distance from Singapore to Hanoi is roughly that from Londonderry to Athens. It's as good as saying people in Singapore wouldn't be concerned with an economic crisis unfolding in Vietnam, should it happen (though it isn't an economic body anyone would bother with).

If you want to talk about being far from Greece, then where I am is exactly that.
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