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Old 09-29-2015, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Lizard Lick, NC
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ah yes... they want women in burkas & hijabs: Because a dog collar and a leash aren't degrading enough.

they want women to hide behind their burka all day because muslim men are so weak minded, that they cannot see women as anything other than a sexual object.
really? your joking right. probably not Europe is the most racist continent on the planet so doesn't surprise me. im Muslim and I never saw women as sexual objects only. but of course you don't know that. weak minded? is that why rape is so high in European countries and America right? because European men are strong minded. is that why all porn videos and brutal porn and heavily sexualized movies and books and tv and culture is all from you guys right? and not to mention the deeply rooted feminism movement in Europe and west trying to give women rights that Islam gave to women long ago. divorce you say? Islam gave that right to women. money and inheritance you say? we gave that to them also. working outside home you say? yep we Muslims gave our women those rights long ago. you guys in Europe to this day cant even do that yet we did it more than 1400 years ago. oh did I mention that women have the choice of who they marry and what they wear and its perfectly fine and not against Islam for a women to not wear a hijab. and whats wrong with a hijab? how is it so degrading? so flaunting your body all over the place knowing that men will see and be tempted and think of sex and see you in a sexualized way is not degrading to a women? you guys in Europe have people specifically and mostly women mostly celebrities that are known as sex symbols for gods sake and you tend to see them as only that very funny how what you accuse us Muslims of is what you yourself think and do. did I mention that its not allowed for men to go out naked either just like the Muslim women? we men of course don't have to wear the hijab but we do have to keep our stomachs chests and anything above the knees covered. please good sir go educate yourself. yes we Muslim men do have a reputation of being extreme and forcing stuff on women and not giving them rights but what you must realize is that Islam gave women rights but some Muslim men didn't do so and follow Islam correctly because of their deeply rooted cultural traditionssssss not because Islam said to do so.

 
Old 09-29-2015, 01:58 PM
 
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But do you guys also like... rock'n'roll?

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Old 09-30-2015, 04:26 AM
 
Location: Europe
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im Muslim and I never saw women as sexual objects only.
only? How about not seeing a woman as sexual *object* at all? How about equal human being instead?
 
Old 09-30-2015, 08:54 AM
 
Location: Romania
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With the continous global warming, in next years the environment in Middle East and North Africa will become uninhabitable. Hundreds of millions will then seek cooler places. So the current immigrant crysis is a small joke for what is to be expected in future:

Elon Musk: Refugee Crisis Just a Glimpse of What's to Come If World Ignores Climate Change






So be a responsable earthling and give your car to scrap metal, stop flying and making children and especially eating meat, dairies and eggs (animal farming is the main cause of global warming). Or support the consequences of your addiction to comfort and fun.

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Old 09-30-2015, 09:24 AM
 
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really? your joking right. probably not Europe is the most racist continent on the planet so doesn't surprise me. im Muslim and I never saw women as sexual objects only. but of course you don't know that. weak minded? is that why rape is so high in European countries and America right? because European men are strong minded. is that why all porn videos and brutal porn and heavily sexualized movies and books and tv and culture is all from you guys right? and not to mention the deeply rooted feminism movement in Europe and west trying to give women rights that Islam gave to women long ago. divorce you say? Islam gave that right to women. money and inheritance you say? we gave that to them also. working outside home you say? yep we Muslims gave our women those rights long ago. you guys in Europe to this day cant even do that yet we did it more than 1400 years ago. oh did I mention that women have the choice of who they marry and what they wear and its perfectly fine and not against Islam for a women to not wear a hijab. and whats wrong with a hijab? how is it so degrading? so flaunting your body all over the place knowing that men will see and be tempted and think of sex and see you in a sexualized way is not degrading to a women? you guys in Europe have people specifically and mostly women mostly celebrities that are known as sex symbols for gods sake and you tend to see them as only that very funny how what you accuse us Muslims of is what you yourself think and do. did I mention that its not allowed for men to go out naked either just like the Muslim women? we men of course don't have to wear the hijab but we do have to keep our stomachs chests and anything above the knees covered. please good sir go educate yourself. yes we Muslim men do have a reputation of being extreme and forcing stuff on women and not giving them rights but what you must realize is that Islam gave women rights but some Muslim men didn't do so and follow Islam correctly because of their deeply rooted cultural traditionssssss not because Islam said to do so.
tell me more about how much Islam embraces women's rights...

does honor killing cover that? how about genital mutilation of teenage girls? what about stoning women who were raped - for having the nerve to have sex outside the institution of marriage. Can women speak freely in front of men in the Middle East? How about drive?? can women drive in places like Saudi Arabia?

covering up your women so they won't TEMPT the men is a barbaric, uncivilized tradition, designed for and by WEAK MINDED MEN!
 
Old 09-30-2015, 09:53 AM
 
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really? your joking right. probably not Europe is the most racist continent on the planet so doesn't surprise me. im Muslim and I never saw women as sexual objects only. but of course you don't know that. weak minded? is that why rape is so high in European countries and America right?

LMAO! Muslim majority countries in the Arabian peninsula are NOTORIOUSLY racist!!! Only Europeans self-reflect about racism. No other cultures in the world do. They just live with it.

And by the way: Muslims enslaved more black Africans than all the European nations combined. They also enslaved Europeans. Over 100 million eastern Africans are believed to have been enslaved and brought into Muslim lands. Since Arabs couldn't imagine blacks in their society, however, they CASTRATED their slaves and hence why the black population remains so low in their lands.


And meanwhile, you want to talk about RAPE? Maybe it's a function of no Muslim-majority country actually being advanced enough in their justice systems to actually track things like rape... or maybe it's a function of women not having the power in society to report on rape... but do yourself a favor: Look at countries such as Sweden, where people of Muslim religion make up a fraction of the population and commit grossly disproportionate amounts of rapes in the country!


Face it: If you force your women to put a bag over their head, or to cover their face, you are a WEAK MAN. A WEAK CULTURE who cannot stand strong women. Pornography is nothing. It's entertainment. But if you can't control yourself seeing a woman in a bikini... or a bit of hair... than you are a JOKE. Sexual laws and religious purity dogma is a sign of a people who cannot handle sex like adults. Whether you're a Muslim, or some crazy polygamist Mormon sect who makes the women where full skirts. Grown people with the minds of children. This simpleton and overly religious mentality goes hand in hand with the fact that there is literally ZERO scientific, medicinal or cultural contributions from Muslim majority nations these days of any worth.


The west, Asia... THIS is where advancements in human science and achievement are occurring. Without oil the Middle East would contribute nothing to humanity....and yet you want people to respect and embrace stupid, backwards religious tradition that brings humanity NOTHING but suffering? Screw that. Long live human secularism and atheism. And if you can't handle that or you can't handle criticism of your religion, then stop enjoying the benefits of the decadent western society and go back to your natural, spiritual homeland.... wherever that is. I'm sure you'll be more comfortable there.
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