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Old 02-12-2016, 11:05 AM
 
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Do you really think Germany and say Greece benefit from the EU the same way? If EU countries trade mainly between them how can they all achieve a positive trade balance? It just impossible
I don't think Germany controls everything in others countries. Germany doesn't care if x country votes to allow gay marriage or similar types of questions but it definitely imposes directives through the EU chain of command to ensure its best interest is maintained. Remember how Greece had to negotiate with Germany like an work-union tried to bargain with the company's board of directors. Varoufakis, though democratically elected was mysteriously kicked out. Just look at Poland who elected a euro-skeptic government and is already getting heat for it.

Well Greece is different animal here, very different from the "always guilty" Bulgaria and Romania. Greece got a very bad deal from the EU economically and the worst is Tsipras now acting like a gambler trying to pay off past debt with a new loan with higher interest rate. You'd know where this leads to...

As to Poland: They know they're in better position than all other EE countries and are trying to capitalize on it, hence this current 'far right' stunt.
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:38 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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If welfare shopping would be possible, Romanians would probably not dig in my dumpster like they do now.


How could that be?
Hhere we also have a large number of Romanian scavengers and beggars.
What is the total number of Romanian scavengers and beggars?
How can they cover a continent?
We have more than anyone else, there's 1,2 millions Romanians here and numbers are still growing. There are cities and towns where they make 5% of the population already. Most of them are hardworking but out of sheer numbers, there's still bound to be a sizeable number of scavengers and beggars
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Old 02-12-2016, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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Then who?? Even kids know the EU is run by France/Germany and the UK is acting as an opposition.
Bulgaria, Romania and the better-off EE(Central) states are used solely for cheap manual labour, market to sell old german cars, stuff etc. or easy targets for spreading propaganda.

Like I said: Germany won't leave as it benefits from it greatly...which defies the need for conspiracy theories of the "evil eastern europeans". So since Germany can pass any rule it wants, even today with the UK still in the union.
There aren't many Eastern European going to France and Germany at all. Spain and Italy is where most have been heading to and i don't think Spain and Italy are even close to leading the EU. Aside from that, you aren't wrong but i think you are overestimating Germany's gains in comparison to other Western European countries.

By the way, these conspiracy theories which used to be popular in Italy until short ago (they still are in parts of Southern Italy where migratory flucx has been more recent) has simply been caused by your citizens being willing to accept jobs at lower wages than Italians/Spanish/ecc. and we all know that can cause xenophobia, ecc. The fault is neither mine nor yours, it's our government's and we can't do much about it.
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Old 06-19-2016, 02:15 PM
 
Location: Land of Free Johnson-Weld-2016
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Benefits Britain, England's poorest town:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WtBCrY8KEHc

Per the narrator, 60% of the working age population are on benefits. This is another one of the low income seaside towns, which makes no sense to me. So many people claim they want to live near the ocean, why are so many of these towns in England doing badly?
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:59 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Benefits Britain, England's poorest town:

Per the narrator, 60% of the working age population are on benefits. This is another one of the low income seaside towns, which makes no sense to me. So many people claim they want to live near the ocean, why are so many of these towns in England doing badly?
It's pointless posting these videos as most are copyrighted are quickly taken down off youtube.

As for Jaywick it's just above the Thames Estuary rather than the Ocean and your analysis is not correct, poverty merely depends on the area and is not related to just being near the sea. Go to Sandbanks in Dorset or numerous other such places and you will see the other end of the wealth spectrum.

Sandbanks in Dorset named as the UK

Top 10 expensive seaside towns in the UK: Sandbanks, Dorset and Salcombe, Devon rank highest

Britain's benefit system is not generous by Central and North European standards but is more generous than the US System and includes free healthcare.

Every society has poverty and the Thames Estuary and other such areas even featured in the works of Charles Dickens.

Better and affordable housing is being built in these areas in terms of the Thames Gateway, whilst the new Mayor of London has prioritised improving the affordable housing stock through building programmes, rent controls and by working with housing associations.

There is also far more protection for workers in the UK in relation to such issues as maximum work hours, minimum holday allowance, minimum wage and working wage, as well as family credits and other tax incentives. So No UK Workers at the lowest unskilled level are not worse off than in the US, indeed in many respects they are better protected.

Basic Right at Work UK - Citizens Advice

Your Rights in Work - UK

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Old 06-21-2016, 06:24 AM
 
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Now in France every young adult from 18 to 25 will get 400€ a month state benefits + APL (200/359€) a month if they don t work.
After 25, the amount is much higher.

François Hollande wants to make sure poverty will be eradicated in France.

He also implemented "prime d activité" to make sure people won t live under 1500€ net a month.
This program is a first worldwide and is a landmark.

Vive François Hollande!
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:32 AM
 
Location: Great Britain
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Now in France every young adult from 18 to 25 will get 400€ a month state benefits + APL (200/359€) a month if they don t work.
After 25, the amount is much higher.

François Hollande wants to make sure poverty will be eradicated in France.

He also implemented "prime d activité" to make sure people won t live under 1500€ net a month.
This program is a first worldwide and is a landmark.

Vive François Hollande!
Good for France.

Britain has a less generous benefit system than some Central and Northern European Countries as has already been mentioned, although our benefits system and work related rights are better than those in most parts of the US.
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Old 06-21-2016, 06:38 AM
 
Location: Bologna, Italy
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We have more than anyone else, there's 1,2 millions Romanians here and numbers are still growing. There are cities and towns where they make 5% of the population already. Most of them are hardworking but out of sheer numbers, there's still bound to be a sizeable number of scavengers and beggars
working does not prevent people from scavenging, also. I have friends who do that outside of organic shops. Lots of good food is being thrown away every day.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Somewhere in Southern Italy
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working does not prevent people from scavenging, also. I have friends who do that outside of organic shops. Lots of good food is being thrown away every day.
This is not the university people, the alternative ones who do it because of their own ideological, ethical and political views but people who do it because they need to having no other solution. It's never an ethnic Romanian who does the scavenging but often or basically always the Romas although i have seen Italians do that at the height of the crisis especially in Turin
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:47 PM
 
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Now in France every young adult from 18 to 25 will get 400€ a month state benefits + APL (200/359€) a month if they don t work.
After 25, the amount is much higher.

François Hollande wants to make sure poverty will be eradicated in France.

He also implemented "prime d activité" to make sure people won t live under 1500€ net a month.
This program is a first worldwide and is a landmark.

Vive François Hollande!
Bombshell Marine Le Pen is coming for you!!
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