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Old 03-11-2016, 10:46 AM
 
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So is this a fact??

For example can a German HS graduate study in a university in the UK free??

Also can a Polish go and get a job in Germany??

Are there any statistics about these??

For example how many people from all over Europe are working in a different country??
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:01 PM
 
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Yes "a Polish" can work in Germany

No, a German HS graduate cannot study in the UK for free.

Yes, there are hundreds of statistics about this. Maybe try Google and Wikipedia for a start.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:21 PM
 
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Yeah Pole can work too.
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Old 03-11-2016, 12:25 PM
 
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I checked Eurostat but couldn't find this category
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Old 03-11-2016, 03:52 PM
 
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I don't think that there is a statistic from Eurostat available for this topic.

The German employment agency has a statistic about this topic.

Employment of workers from selected EU countries and from asyulum seeker countries in Germany, change from Jan 2011 -> 2015 --- change from Dec 2014 to Dec 2015 in %

Poland: 121,792 -> 350,571 --- 16.6%
Hungary: 18,339 -> 88,053 --- 20.0%
Czech Republic: 16,477 -> 43,705 --- 16.9%
Slovakia: 9,042 -> 26,103 --- 12.3%
Slovenia: 8,005 -> 11,581 --- 9.5%
Estonia: 1,377 -> 2,620 --- 7.0%
Latvia: 3,532 -> 12,801 --- 10.7%
Lithuania: 6,967 -> 19,337 --- 13.8%

Romania: 46,508 -> 219,989 --- 34.7%
Bulgaria: 20,834 -> 93,859 --- 30.0%
Croatia: 96,178 -> 140,076 --- 23.5%

Italy: 211,289 -> 271,038 --- 5.3%
Portugal: 48,751 -> 63,784 --- 3.7%
Spain: 39,388 -> 69,703 --- 6.7%
Greece: 103,238 -> 147,672 --- 5.3%

Albania: 20,821 -> 22,190 --- 9.8%
Bosnia: 63,196 -> 72,053 --- 5.7%
Kosovo: 26,913 -> 61,505 --- 13.2%
Macedonia: 21,514 -> 29,103 --- 8.8%
Serbia: 64,908 -> 73,233 --- 3.6%
Russia: 66,166 -> 84,983 --- 5.9%
Ukraine: 34,133 -> 44,768 --- 6.9%
Afghanistan: 14,286 -> 21,922 --- 18.2%
Eritrea: 2,517 -> 4,357 --- 42.9%
Iraq: 19,733 -> 22,740 --- 7.8%
Iran: 16,273 -> 20,952 --- 9.0%
Nigeria: 6,426 -> 10,474 --- 21.2%
Pakistan: 7,799 -> 15,659 --- 23.7%
Somalia: 821 -> 2,512 --- 44.8%
Syria: 7,252 -> 21,542 --- 53.3%


http://statistik.arbeitsagentur.de/S...beitsmarkt.pdf


The immigration is the main reason for the rising employment in Germany.

Employment growth is clearly accelerating.

Year over year change:

Jun 2015: +288,000
Jul 2015: +294,000
Aug 2015: +339,000
Sep 2015: +367,000
Oct 2015: +373,000
Nov 2015: +423,000
Dec 2015: +441,000
Jan 2016: +524,000
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Old 03-11-2016, 04:04 PM
 
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I don't think that there is a statistic from Eurostat available for this topic.

The German employment agency has a statistic about this topic.

Employment of workers from selected EU countries and from asyulum seeker countries in Germany, change from Jan 2011 -> 2015 --- change from Dec 2014 to Dec 2015 in %

Poland: 121,792 -> 350,571 --- 16.6%
Hungary: 18,339 -> 88,053 --- 20.0%
Czech Republic: 16,477 -> 43,705 --- 16.9%
Slovakia: 9,042 -> 26,103 --- 12.3%
Slovenia: 8,005 -> 11,581 --- 9.5%
Estonia: 1,377 -> 2,620 --- 7.0%
Latvia: 3,532 -> 12,801 --- 10.7%
Lithuania: 6,967 -> 19,337 --- 13.8%

Romania: 46,508 -> 219,989 --- 34.7%
Bulgaria: 20,834 -> 93,859 --- 30.0%
Croatia: 96,178 -> 140,076 --- 23.5%

Italy: 211,289 -> 271,038 --- 5.3%
Portugal: 48,751 -> 63,784 --- 3.7%
Spain: 39,388 -> 69,703 --- 6.7%
Greece: 103,238 -> 147,672 --- 5.3%

Albania: 20,821 -> 22,190 --- 9.8%
Bosnia: 63,196 -> 72,053 --- 5.7%
Kosovo: 26,913 -> 61,505 --- 13.2%
Macedonia: 21,514 -> 29,103 --- 8.8%
Serbia: 64,908 -> 73,233 --- 3.6%
Russia: 66,166 -> 84,983 --- 5.9%
Ukraine: 34,133 -> 44,768 --- 6.9%
Afghanistan: 14,286 -> 21,922 --- 18.2%
Eritrea: 2,517 -> 4,357 --- 42.9%
Iraq: 19,733 -> 22,740 --- 7.8%
Iran: 16,273 -> 20,952 --- 9.0%
Nigeria: 6,426 -> 10,474 --- 21.2%
Pakistan: 7,799 -> 15,659 --- 23.7%
Somalia: 821 -> 2,512 --- 44.8%
Syria: 7,252 -> 21,542 --- 53.3%


http://statistik.arbeitsagentur.de/S...beitsmarkt.pdf


The immigration is the main reason for the rising employment in Germany.

Employment growth is clearly accelerating.

Year over year change:

Jun 2015: +288,000
Jul 2015: +294,000
Aug 2015: +339,000
Sep 2015: +367,000
Oct 2015: +373,000
Nov 2015: +423,000
Dec 2015: +441,000
Jan 2016: +524,000
Lukas how about developed countries??

The UK, Netherlands...etc.

Unbelievable numbers!!!

But also can't imagine negative effect of this on other countries.
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Old 03-12-2016, 11:24 AM
 
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I guarantee you that the university is not free here, it is actually quite a good deal more expensive than in France.

You can work in a different country without any problems, it is harder to get a permanent resident status.
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Old 04-04-2016, 03:34 PM
 
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I don't think that there is a statistic from Eurostat available for this topic.

The German employment agency has a statistic about this topic.

Employment of workers from selected EU countries and from asyulum seeker countries in Germany, change from Jan 2011 -> 2015 --- change from Dec 2014 to Dec 2015 in %

Poland: 121,792 -> 350,571 --- 16.6%
Hungary: 18,339 -> 88,053 --- 20.0%
Czech Republic: 16,477 -> 43,705 --- 16.9%
Slovakia: 9,042 -> 26,103 --- 12.3%
Slovenia: 8,005 -> 11,581 --- 9.5%
Estonia: 1,377 -> 2,620 --- 7.0%
Latvia: 3,532 -> 12,801 --- 10.7%
Lithuania: 6,967 -> 19,337 --- 13.8%

Romania: 46,508 -> 219,989 --- 34.7%
Bulgaria: 20,834 -> 93,859 --- 30.0%
Croatia: 96,178 -> 140,076 --- 23.5%

Italy: 211,289 -> 271,038 --- 5.3%
Portugal: 48,751 -> 63,784 --- 3.7%
Spain: 39,388 -> 69,703 --- 6.7%
Greece: 103,238 -> 147,672 --- 5.3%

Albania: 20,821 -> 22,190 --- 9.8%
Bosnia: 63,196 -> 72,053 --- 5.7%
Kosovo: 26,913 -> 61,505 --- 13.2%
Macedonia: 21,514 -> 29,103 --- 8.8%
Serbia: 64,908 -> 73,233 --- 3.6%
Russia: 66,166 -> 84,983 --- 5.9%
Ukraine: 34,133 -> 44,768 --- 6.9%
Afghanistan: 14,286 -> 21,922 --- 18.2%
Eritrea: 2,517 -> 4,357 --- 42.9%
Iraq: 19,733 -> 22,740 --- 7.8%
Iran: 16,273 -> 20,952 --- 9.0%
Nigeria: 6,426 -> 10,474 --- 21.2%
Pakistan: 7,799 -> 15,659 --- 23.7%
Somalia: 821 -> 2,512 --- 44.8%
Syria: 7,252 -> 21,542 --- 53.3%


http://statistik.arbeitsagentur.de/S...beitsmarkt.pdf


The immigration is the main reason for the rising employment in Germany.

Employment growth is clearly accelerating.

Year over year change:

Jun 2015: +288,000
Jul 2015: +294,000
Aug 2015: +339,000
Sep 2015: +367,000
Oct 2015: +373,000
Nov 2015: +423,000
Dec 2015: +441,000
Jan 2016: +524,000

Unemployment rate means nothing too. I am a French economist and central banker.

High unemployment rate in France compared to Britain?"

It is a conservative propaganda.

Unemployment rate according to the BIT is based on "people who tell they are looking for a job".

Therefore the more it is easy to be eligible to benefits the higher is the unemployment rate (even if the number of real unemployed people is the same)

In France it is easy to be eligible to lots of benefits and for life not like in Britain.

You just need to say in internet once a month that you are unemployed (there is no control)==> very easy in France to be included (you get 1000/6300€ net a month during 2/3 years then (for life) it is RSA (525€net a month)+APL(between 200 and 600€ net a month if you dont own your home)+ Holidays/ Xmas bonuses (120 € net a month) + kid bonuses ( 200 euros for each kid)

In Britain, it is only 400€ for 6 months and only if you have less than 21230€ in your bank account => very few are eligible and are telling they are looking for a job contrary to France. But it is worst in the USA.

What is important is EMPLOYMENT RATE AGE 18-60 (not 15-64 because it s not revelant for countries like France where people retirement age is at 55 or 60 or 62 and where school is mandatory for 15-17 years old)

Employment is increasing every year in France. 81% of people among 25/60 years old have a job => the highest rate in the world above Britain obviously and behind Switzerland.

Also in France there is no "crappy jobs" like in most G20 countries. Most jobs for the youth is low paid job in England or even zero hour contract. In France, It is forbidden, it is only CDD or CDI (permanent contract with high advantages 35hours a week, 9/15 weeks of vacation due to extra days off, 78% of your income when you retire given by the state (the highest state pension in the world=> it is not capitalisation like in the UK where you have to Save money in pensions).

Minimum wage is 1466.62 euros a month in France or 9.67euros an hour. + state pension + free education + free health insurance + free "mutuelle".

To conclude the British economy sucks a lot when you take a look at the numbers.

It is just anti-Hollande, anti-socialist party, the right-wing bingos, right-wing propaganda all arround the world and the way the unemployment rate is presented which gives the impression the employment situation in France is bad. But not as bad as in the UK or in the USA or even Germany.

Also:

According to INSEE, 588 000 people in France are in the A category whereas they should be in the D category (D category is part time jobs which is not include in the unemployment rate but in France when you go from A to D category you loose your 1000€ net a month therefore most people don t say they work some hours a week.

Also:

More than 1 million people in France are not looking for a job but, as non-workers, they benefit from benefits and are registered as unemployed. An enormous number of people like housekeepers are telling they are looking for a job even if they don t to get 2000 euros a month. (In France you can tell you are looking for a job and refuse all job from Pole Emploi. You don't need to look for a job if you say you are unemployed ==> the onyl country doing this)

Also:

Very few people are in a training program in France. Training programs in Germany and in the UK are massive which contribute a lot to a fake low unemployment rate too.

Finaly:

In France, productivity continues increasing and is higher than in other countries thus companies don t need to hire.

1 French job is a full contract= 3 German contracts= 6 zero hour contracts in the UK. There are very few part time job in France.

But even without the "Finaly" described above, the employment situation is far better in France than in Germany or England, from my point of view.

"If all that is true why have so many young French people come to London to get a job that it is now France's sixth largest city?"

First there are more Brits in France than Frenchies in the UK. (The UK is also the only country where Frenchies are going => because in Britain they speak English)

Secondly, maybe you don t know, but all British companies and banks come to France to offer jobs in London. French people don't want to go to the UK but banks and British companies dont find British with high skills therefore they come in France with Huge package to tell us to come. When I was at school, lots of British banks were there to offer us a 10000€ net a month job because we are the only country where they can find the good people.

In addition, London offers good jobs in the financial sector and French young people have a short term view (they don t know very well the French and English system. They did not know they have to save money for when they retire, they did not they have to save money for the health service system. They did not know income taxe in England was so high compared with the 11% tax on your income in France (11% tax between 2000€/4000€ net a month income). They did not know they have to pay so many insurances even when they travel. They did not know the rent was so expensive. they did not know they have so few days off and so much work and so few holidays. They did not know they have to pay so much for their kids and even for their education.etc etc.. A real nightmare compare to French economic system.
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Old 04-04-2016, 09:58 PM
 
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I pay £9,000 for my education per year, I would be furious if Germans could study in this country for free.
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Old 04-05-2016, 05:45 AM
 
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I pay £9,000 for my education per year, I would be furious if Germans could study in this country for free.
Well, technically Germans can study for free in the UK, but only as exchange students for up to a year. Thanks to Erasmus+
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