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Nobody says Britain > Germany or the rest of Europe, its just FAR less entwined within Europe, this is due to its (unsurprising) close cultural links with other Anglo countries, its Imperial past, the fact that it is an Island and also because of the English language.
You've got millions of British people in continental Europe and British businesses clearly operate on continental Europe. Canada, New Zealand, and Australia are of course apart of the Commonwealth.
The US is a different matter with a very different educational system and healthcare system from Britain.
There is nothing «*celtic*» in those things... the celtic civilisation orignal homeland was in central Europe (southern germany, Austria, switzerland), not in the british isles.
The so-called «*celtic*» music from the British isles has nothing to do with celts. It is just a renewal of traditional folk music that existed in all Europe. Bagpipes are not celtic at all and exist in most of Europe, middle east and north Africa.
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Much later, Celtic, Slavic and Jutland settlers mixed and created the Germanic culture, which is recent.
Bagpipes are medieval and come from Provence.
Roman historians barely could discern Celtic from Germanic culture, except for the likes of Cimbrians.
The "central European" celtic speakers had a few to nothing in common with the "Atlantic celts" of Britain, France and Iberia, who are what we all perceive as celts today
Neither I was talking about bagpipes, but celtic scale in music
Celtic was a culture, and the different Celtic language branches are closely related.
Great Britain is mostly related to small Britain, nowdays France, Belgium and the low countries.
An awful lot of all this stuff is based on dubious history, obsessed - because of imperialism - with fantasised mass movements of settlers and so on. Many estimates put the total number of German mercenaries in Britain at about 10,000 (lowest estimate), as compared with up to (biggest estimates) five million British in Roman Britannia. Similarly 'Celtic' is a linguistic term. As far as we know, the majority of British people everywhere descend from (speaking very loosely) Basques, who walked here as the ice withdrew, but who knows. I think the eastern British always identify with those who conquer them, and would be speaking French now but for the wars with France. The Germans were, as a result of those wars, someone unlike the French who, eventually, had claims to civilization.
They're similar in that they're both western Germanics but just with different languages. Its the same thing with Italy and France also being western Germanics with a different language from German and English. Aside from language, there's very little difference between these people and countries
I have a theory , you rarely see any fair haired English/Welshman in Britain, that includes East Anglia. I actually think the Vikings left nearly zero DNA, ( the largest would be Yorkshire), and the Saxons very limited.
Britain had two massive waves of migration, the first would be Anglo-Saxons and Norse, ( from 600-900 ad),which left very little dna, 20 % max in certain shires. The Vikings and Saxons would only mate with their own Germanic blood, they would only recite Germanic poems such as Beowulf( set in Denmark and Sweden), so mating with the local Britons would not be in their interest. There would only be small boats, so, as the other poster said, 10,000 Germans would be correct.
Britons now do not resemble Germans , or Scandanavians. I am Dark brown haired, my friends are all brown haired, my school only had two or three fair haired lads. I think England has been lied to regarding our Saxon dna ( completely overblown)
They're similar in that they're both western Germanics but just with different languages. Its the same thing with Italy and France also being western Germanics with a different language from German and English. Aside from language, there's very little difference between these people and countries
No, Italians are Latin people, with a Romance/Latin language and a completely southern culture. Italy is a Mediterranean country with a Southern European heritage and Italians are Latin people.
Germanic is far too far from Italy, just some towns from the very north of Italy near the Swiss border are Germanic, that doesn't say nothing. Even Venice at the north is typical Mediterranean. I can't understand why there is so much inferiority complex from many Italians like you. The Internet is literally full with guys like you trying to convince others and trying to change history, saying Italy is not Mediterranean.
There was no mass migration of Saxons , Angles , Friesans , best bet 20,000 warrior class , the poorer Saxons could not afford to come to Britain. The tall fair haired warrior class would definitely not wed local Britons. The Saxon blood is a myth , perpetuated,especially as our Royal Family is German.
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There was no mass migration of Saxons , Angles , Friesans , best bet 20,000 warrior class , the poorer Saxons could not afford to come to Britain. The tall fair haired warrior class would definitely not wed local Britons. The Saxon blood is a myth , perpetuated,especially as our Royal Family is German.
England as been an anlo-saxon country is not a myth, it is just that it relates to the language spoken, to the fact of been english speaking a language of anglo-saxon origin. The same way Americans, australians, rtc are decribed as anglo-saxon. it does obviously not implies that they genetically derived from the old original anglo-saxon tribes.
The same way spanish people are latin because they speak a latin langiage, not because they were supposed to decend from the original latin speaking people from lazio in central Italy, which they obviouly do not.
The same way irish are refered to celtic because a celtic language is still alove on their soil, not because they descend from the original celts from central Europe, which they do not.
All ethnic label refers to languages groups, not to a racial imaginary belonging.
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