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So strong women like Joan Of Arc and Cleopatra don't count as physically strong historical ladies? I will have to keep that in mind.
I like the full face look in ladies myself. Must be the Native American in me.
I like a sculpted face but then there are those women that look like they have what I call a 'horse bone' appearance in the face. Paleness is one thing but gaunt is another and depravation doesn't make a woman look at all attractive.
You can tell between the women who physically train to be thinner and those who actually starve themselves to try and look thinner.
It isn't pretty in the slightest.
Jeanne d'Arc and Cleo are NOT athletic and toned women
The strength attributed to them were not physical, of the man beating or modelling type. One inspired a demoralized country and the other was a military genius to the level of Agrippa or Scipio Africanus, and that is why historians consider them "strong". Apples and oranges, milady
Jeanne d'Arc and Cleo are NOT athletic and toned women
The strength attributed to them were not physical, of the man beating or modelling type. One inspired a demoralized country and the other was a military genius to the level of Agrippa or Scipio Africanus, and that is why historians consider them "strong". Apples and oranges, milady
Do you mean like female bodybuilders or the average fit woman?
Like are we talking a professional bodybuilder or a fit woman like Torrie Wilson or Trish Stratus here?
I'm about 5'9" and at my "thinest" I was probably 170. I thought, at the time, that I was overweight. In looking back at old pics, I was actually pretty muscular and lean.
I think, at this stage of my life, I'd be happy to make 180......
I'm 5'10" and 155#, and consider myself just outside of "slim" range. Build factors a lot into it too, however. For example I'm average height and pretty lightweight, but can lift (bench, squat, press) quite a bit above average. I think it mostly has to do with the fact that I have thin bones, so most of my extra weight is muscle. When I started college at 18 I was more around 140, had never lifted at all, but I still didn't look like a starving kid. So basically, build/genetics are more the determining factor than height/weight in how you look.
It's amazing to think but slim men were very common up until about 25 years ago or so. I enjoy looking at clips on youtube from the 60s-early 80s. By far the majority of guys were skinny. Muscular builds were unusual, especially that steroid look. that is so common today. Women used to like the sensitive man. Starting in the mid/late 80s they demanded a "real man" that's when just about every guy (except for myself) started hitting the gym and getting buff as hell.
I think women's preference for muscularity (if not outright hatred towards thin men) is a sign of the devolution of the human race. We have devolved to where men must look like caveman/warriors to attract the opposite sex. I also think that women's demand for muscularity is a reason why the family unit has been in decline. Just because he looks like a "real man" doesn't mean he is a real man in the qualities that count.
I think women's preference for muscularity (if not outright hatred towards thin men) is a sign of the devolution of the human race. We have devolved to where men must look like caveman/warriors to attract the opposite sex. I also think that women's demand for muscularity is a reason why the family unit has been in decline. Just because he looks like a "real man" doesn't mean he is a real man in the qualities that count.
An aside to your post: on the military base where I work, they closed the base library and changed it to a weight room/work out gym.
I most often find myself attracted to slim men, and them being athletic is a wonderful addition (in many professional sports, men look like that). The kind that can look really smart and classy in casual and formal wear, and look good dressed and undressed. It's not that I can't be attracted to more naturally stocky types, but I usually go for the streamlined guys.
I want a man who takes care of his appearance and health, but I don't like the inflatable gym look that is so typical today. Never have, never will.
I think women's preference for muscularity (if not outright hatred towards thin men) is a sign of the devolution of the human race. We have devolved to where men must look like caveman/warriors to attract the opposite sex. I also think that women's demand for muscularity is a reason why the family unit has been in decline. Just because he looks like a "real man" doesn't mean he is a real man in the qualities that count.
Besides the fact that your assertion is ridiculous, it's not as if muscular builds have replaced slim builds as a norm. Most men are now overweight, not muscular.
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