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Old 07-14-2013, 04:48 AM
 
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So many reasons.

- They like being outside
- They have to start somewhere
- They are deconditioned/injured former 'good' runners
- They think you need to run to lose weight/get fit
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:24 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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I see a lot of joggers in the streets who are just shuffling along at a snail's pace. A lot of them actually look in real pain. I've known people who do this in the past, and these guys were actually injured-knees, joints, spine, whatever. Yet they insist on 'running', for cardio they say. But I have to think any cardio benefits are few to none, because they can't be getting their heart rates up sufficiently at that slow a pace, and any cardio benefits will be outweighed by the damage they are doing to themselves. So why don't these people do low impact cardio that would really benefit them--the elliptical, spin classes, anything. Why do people insist on running when they no longer can?
I live in an area with many seniors. I'm sure they run(?) for the cardio benefits some are a little pathetic as they struggle along.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:51 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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I live in an area with many seniors. I'm sure they run(?) for the cardio benefits some are a little pathetic as they struggle along.
Really? Pathetic? It's pretty clear, from some of the posts on here, that some people are really pathetic. I'm not talking about those poor souls out there getting exercise, either. I'm talking about the people who have nothing better with their time, than to perch on their high horses, making fun of people are are clearly trying. The cruelty of some people just astounds me. The fact that some people feel so much better about themselves, when they're judging others as inferior to them?....now THAT'S pathetic.
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Old 07-14-2013, 09:25 AM
 
Location: Long Neck,De
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Really? Pathetic? It's pretty clear, from some of the posts on here, that some people are really pathetic. I'm not talking about those poor souls out there getting exercise, either. I'm talking about the people who have nothing better with their time, than to perch on their high horses, making fun of people are are clearly trying. The cruelty of some people just astounds me. The fact that some people feel so much better about themselves, when they're judging others as inferior to them?....now THAT'S pathetic.

Not judging others Simply stating a fact.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:11 AM
 
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Your research conflicts with my research. That is precisely what we were designed to do. That was precisely our evolutionary advantage that caused us to survive until and while we figured out how to use our thumbs and our brains to make tools. Our legs muscles make excellent shock absorbers!
Evolutionary advantage? RUnning? Umm, no that wasn't our advantage. Our advantage were our brains. We were never good runners relative to predators - and we're still not. And besides that, we weren't designed to run as we run today - not anywhere close to it. And even more besides that again, our legs aren't really great shock absorbers, again not in the way we use them to run today. Look at all the articles and on line threads dedicated to shin splints and other injuries. You don't see that same amount of injury information for low impact activities.

I use a HRM for cycling in a different way than for running but just for comparison purposes, if I go out and run for 3 or 4 hrs in zone 3-4 and some forays into 5 for a minute here and there you better believe my muscles, hips, knees, ankles, whatever, will ache the next day. Very badly. If I do the same in cycling the only thing that'll ache would be my muscles, a nice ache.

I am really confused by all the people who actually challenge that when you are old, running is usually not the best form of cardio activity. It's not an insult, it's just something that's plain to see. I don't think older people should do a funnel either, and they shouldn't eat pizza and hot wings every night, and they shouldn't go out to dance clubs and stay out until 4am, and they shouldn't drive (too far! just joking on that one).

Running is not an older person's sport, that's all. It's not meant to disparage those who are up there in age - all respect to them.
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Old 07-14-2013, 11:23 AM
 
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I'm not talking about those poor souls out there getting exercise, either. I'm talking about the people who have nothing better with their time, than to perch on their high horses, making fun of people are are clearly trying. The cruelty of some people just astounds me. The fact that some people feel so much better about themselves, when they're judging others as inferior to them?....now THAT'S pathetic.
They are probably getting as much of a benefit getting ready to go for a run than they do on the run. That's not an insult, I truly mean it.

I am perched very low on my horse. Matter of fact, I can't even afford a horse! Nobody is making fun and although I didn't go through and dissect each and every post, I didn't see any thatwere cruel or judgemental. There are opinions however and thoughts that a different activity may be better, very different than saying that older people should not exercise. And I also didn't notice any posts saying or implying anything about inferiority.

I think you are getting offended about and reading things into the posts that weren't meant. Says more about you than the anything else. No offense, just calls 'em like I sees 'em.
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Old 07-14-2013, 03:34 PM
 
Location: Western Washington
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They are probably getting as much of a benefit getting ready to go for a run than they do on the run. That's not an insult, I truly mean it.

I am perched very low on my horse. Matter of fact, I can't even afford a horse! Nobody is making fun and although I didn't go through and dissect each and every post, I didn't see any thatwere cruel or judgemental. There are opinions however and thoughts that a different activity may be better, very different than saying that older people should not exercise. And I also didn't notice any posts saying or implying anything about inferiority.

I think you are getting offended about and reading things into the posts that weren't meant. Says more about you than the anything else. No offense, just calls 'em like I sees 'em.
Of course you didn't see any posts that were cruel or judgemental. It doesn't make one bit of difference whether these people could or should be doing a different form of exercise. They WANT to run. That is not for you or anyone else to judge. That is what floats their boats and is an exercise that they want do. Leave it at that, because it's really no one else's business. I wonder just how many people out there are getting no exercise, because others have undermined their confidence with negative statements.

As a nurse, I say, "MOVE....just MOVE. Get some exercise and f**k anyone who has negative comments to make in regard to your physical condition or your exercise choice. The point is to keep moving!
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Old 07-14-2013, 07:41 PM
 
Location: Miami, fl
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Evolutionary advantage? RUnning? Umm, no that wasn't our advantage. Our advantage were our brains. We were never good runners relative to predators - and we're still not. And besides that, we weren't designed to run as we run today - not anywhere close to it. And even more besides that again, our legs aren't really great shock absorbers, again not in the way we use them to run today. Look at all the articles and on line threads dedicated to shin splints and other injuries. You don't see that same amount of injury information for low impact activities.
I think some would argue persistence hunting guided much of our evolution still I completely agree with what you are saying. I thinking going hand and hand with keeping active for health is avoiding injury. With over 250,000 ACL surgeries every year I believe people need to be careful in the activities they choose. Does this mean don't run? Not at all, but maybe it means don't get up off of laying on the couch for a year and run.
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Old 07-14-2013, 08:41 PM
 
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Saw yet another neighborhood shuffler lurching painfully down the street today. You attaboys can rah-rah these guys all you want, but if it's improved cardio fitness they're after, an elliptical, spinning class or jacob's ladder will get them there in a much better, and sounder orthopedic manner.
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Old 07-15-2013, 06:26 AM
 
Location: Western Washington
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I know some people who would "physically" be better off, if they chose an indoor activity for their exercise, but then....that would put them indoors, around other people. Many of the people you see running (obviously, because you're SEEING them) are outdoors and alone. That should tell you something right there.

Their running is clearly a more "holistic" approach to exercise. It is clearly not just filling the need to "exercise". They may be fulfilling more than just their need to get a good cardio workout.
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