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The goal of therapy should be not only to recover from the injury, but to prevent further injury through education. If you continue to get injured as a result of working out hard 5x/week, then you need to change your workout program. Nobody but a masochist should accept injury as "inevitable."
What seems like a "minor tweak" could be a number of different things that would be treated differently, and may not be minor. We can't diagnose the problem here. There may also be other underlying and related issues that need to be addressed leading up to the injury.
Education can certainly be done on your own once the injury is known. I have self diagnosed and corrected several sports related injuries through the years, including elbow tendonitis that four different doctors, two chiropractors and a physical therapist had no idea how to fix.
Show me someone who has played sports, lifted weights, or hey.....been active for the better part of their lives who hasn't suffered several injuries, minor or major, and I'd be surprised if you can find any.
Or you can live in a pretend world where you see physical therapists 5x/week and go broke trying to prevent injuries, lol.
Education can certainly be done on your own once the injury is known. I have self diagnosed and corrected several sports related injuries through the years, including elbow tendonitis that four different doctors, two chiropractors and a physical therapist had no idea how to fix.
Show me someone who has played sports, lifted weights, or hey.....been active for the better part of their lives who hasn't suffered several injuries, minor or major, and I'd be surprised if you can find any.
Or you can live in a pretend world where you see physical therapists 5x/week and go broke trying to prevent injuries, lol.
Doctors don't know how to "fix" elbow tendinitis, except by giving an injection or doing surgery. A physical therapist would try different modalities to see how you respond to them, but this is an injury for which there isn't any real proven fix that works for everyone.
The shoulder is much more complex and there are several problems that could explain the OP's injury. By trying to self-diagnose and self-treat he might only prolong recovery. It wouldn't require spending the rest of his life in therapy. Any therapy program has to have a goal and a limit.
It's a choice, if you're prone to injuries and continue to abuse your body by doing activities that cause injuries then, hey, "Enjoy suffering." You'll turn into an old man ahead of schedule.
Doctors don't know how to "fix" elbow tendinitis, except by giving an injection or doing surgery. A physical therapist would try different modalities to see how you respond to them, but this is an injury for which there isn't any real proven fix that works for everyone.
The shoulder is much more complex and there are several problems that could explain the OP's injury. By trying to self-diagnose and self-treat he might only prolong recovery. It wouldn't require spending the rest of his life in therapy. Any therapy program has to have a goal and a limit.
It's a choice, if you're prone to injuries and continue to abuse your body by doing activities that cause injuries then, hey, "Enjoy suffering." You'll turn into an old man ahead of schedule.
You seem to be suggesting proactive physical therapy to avoid injuries. I've never heard of anyone other than pro athletes doing such a thing. Ridiculous premise.
In terms of my elbow, as I said PTs couldn't fix it either. I did my own research and figured out a solution and to date I've helped 3 other guys in my gym fix theirs too and it has never come back after dealing with it for years.
I'm not "prone" to injuries. I've played decades of baseball (and softball into adulthood), tennis, golf, weightlifting, basketball and football on top of coaching my son in various sports and I also workout a minimum of 5x/week. Maybe you lay around a lot and don't play any sports or lift weights or just like to pretend to be Superman over the internet, hard to know but to say injuries can be 100% prevented is asinine and not reality. Now go play pretend Doctor somewhere else.
You seem to be suggesting proactive physical therapy to avoid injuries. I've never heard of anyone other than pro athletes doing such a thing. Ridiculous premise.
In terms of my elbow, as I said PTs couldn't fix it either. I did my own research and figured out a solution and to date I've helped 3 other guys in my gym fix theirs too and it has never come back after dealing with it for years.
I'm not "prone" to injuries. I've played decades of baseball (and softball into adulthood), tennis, golf, weightlifting, basketball and football on top of coaching my son in various sports and I also workout a minimum of 5x/week. Maybe you lay around a lot and don't play any sports or lift weights or just like to pretend to be Superman over the internet, hard to know but to say injuries can be 100% prevented is asinine and not reality. Now go play pretend Doctor somewhere else.
I never suggested "proactive physical therapy to avoid injuries."
And about your elbow I call BS: you first posted here about your tennis elbow in April of last year, looking for help. Some expert.
It sounds like you're in denial about your own limitations and how the body becomes more prone to injury with age.
I've also had injuries and have been helped by physical therapy but you have to do what the therapist says. A lot of people who claim the therapist didn't help them didn't actually follow through with the homework the therapist gave them. And I never said injuries can be 100% prevented but prevention should be the goal, Florida Man.
OP, is it possible your form wasn't on point? Perhaps you were flaring your elbows during the movement and the following pain ensued as a result, once you fully extended bringing the bar back? It's really not possible for anyone here to diagnose your injury or recommend a plan of action other than a general good idea which would be rest, hot/cold compresses, and take a break. I've had shoulder injuries before. I've had back injuries before. If fitness is your life, specifically weightlifting or bodybuilding then it can be scary wondering if you've done permanent damage.
Florida2014 is correct that sometimes these things happen for many different reasons ranging from form to overexertion. I also agree with Aries63 that seeing an Orthopedic Doctor might be the way to go if your insurance covers it or if the pain persists. Anytime I get an injury, it's time to stop. Whether that be for a few days, a week, or 2 months. The cost of pushing forward and ignoring can be significantly greater.
Thanks for the tips/advice. As far as seeing a Doc, has anyone tried scheduling a Doctors appointment recently? My Doc is booked 6 months out. Crazy times...
I've had shoulder pain while doing bench presses and military presses. For some reason my should didn't hurt if I used a machine where my palms were facing each other as opposed to the normal palms away grip. I worked through the pain with barbell bench presses and it has gone away after a long time.
People always suggest seeing a doctor. I've found that very few doctors can diagnose these types of issues. The doctors that specialize in sports medicine typically want to do surgery or give shots. I know one who is a board-certified family medicine physician and sports medicine specialist who mostly does shots. My best experience was with a doctor who "specializes in physical medicine and rehabilitation with a special interest in sports medicine." He was an expert in diagnosing sports injuries, but the sports medicine facility where he worked thought he took too much time with patients and pushed him out.
My experience with physical therapists is similar. Most are not good at diagnosing injuries and prescribing solutions. I have found one physical therapist who runs her own practice and will spend one on one time with you to rehab the injury.
The problem is trying to find these people. Like you said, with the lead time in seeing most doctors today, you end up scheduling with whoever is available.
I never suggested "proactive physical therapy to avoid injuries."
And about your elbow I call BS: you first posted here about your tennis elbow in April of last year, looking for help. Some expert.
It sounds like you're in denial about your own limitations and how the body becomes more prone to injury with age.
I've also had injuries and have been helped by physical therapy but you have to do what the therapist says. A lot of people who claim the therapist didn't help them didn't actually follow through with the homework the therapist gave them. And I never said injuries can be 100% prevented but prevention should be the goal, Florida Man.
Please re-check your "facts" my friend. I had INNER ELBOW TENDONITIS for years that I have fixed. The post re: the other tendonitis was OUTER ELBOW TENDONITIS, which is an entirely different thing altogether. Google "Tennis Elbow" vs. "Golfers Elbow" to comprehend the difference.
So on top of pretending to be a doctor you're also a pretend private investigator? Wow, you should quit both jobs because you're not very good at either.
Please re-check your "facts" my friend. I had INNER ELBOW TENDONITIS for years that I have fixed. The post re: the other tendonitis was OUTER ELBOW TENDONITIS, which is an entirely different thing altogether. Google "Tennis Elbow" vs. "Golfers Elbow" to comprehend the difference.
So on top of pretending to be a doctor you're also a pretend private investigator? Wow, you should quit both jobs because you're not very good at either.
Your one kind of elbow tendinitis likely led to the other kind due to compensation, or the faulty DIY therapy you were doing. You "fixed" the one, only to cause the other. I've seen this pattern before. But continue to be in denial.
You're not only the self-proclaimed "King of Shoulder Injuries" but also the "George Santos of Sports Medicine."
You're pretending to be a doctor, not me. I'm telling the OP to go see a doctor and avoid taking advice from people who have no business giving it.
I had a tennis partner for 20+ years who was a physical therapist. He gave me lots of advice on treating and preventing injuries, and not just related to tennis. He also told me plenty of stories about his patients, the good, bad, and ugly (and stupid). I have great respect for his knowledge and profession. Now it's mostly occupational therapists who get assigned upper extremity injuries.
Your one kind of elbow tendinitis likely led to the other kind due to compensation, or the faulty DIY therapy you were doing. You "fixed" the one, only to cause the other. I've seen this pattern before. But continue to be in denial.
You're not only the self-proclaimed "King of Shoulder Injuries" but also the "George Santos of Sports Medicine."
You're pretending to be a doctor, not me. I'm telling the OP to go see a doctor and avoid taking advice from people who have no business giving it.
I had a tennis partner for 20+ years who was a physical therapist. He gave me lots of advice on treating and preventing injuries, and not just related to tennis. He also told me plenty of stories about his patients, the good, bad, and ugly (and stupid). I have great respect for his knowledge and profession. Now it's mostly occupational therapists who get assigned upper extremity injuries.
They were years apart so nice try. We can keep doing this to try and one up each other but I think Dr. Know-it-all with his/her MD from Google University is probably never going to stop so I'll wish you well with your deep knowledge of the human body and hope you continue to give such great advice as "Go see a doctor" on all injury forums, that's just mind blowing stuff there.
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