[The Villages Guy]

Originally Posted by The b8nk

Mcjobs

Data please?

[The Villages Guy]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Doesn't mean a middle-class lifestyle is.

Jobs Aren't Leaving California For Texas, But People Are - Forbes

California Migration: High Housing Prices, Not Jobs Or Taxes, Most Responsible For Pushing People Out, Report Finds

As someone in a "STEM" job, I can tell you that pay in FL isn't as big of a hit compared to Cali as many on this site believe. The COL is 1000x better though.

LOL! The Forbes article says jobs are not leaving CA, but then provides data showing a yearly net loss of jobs and people.

[The b8nk]

Originally Posted by THX 1138

I have a good friend that worked in a STEM related job in Broward, lost his job after 15 years of being there...got an offer with a well known company in the South Bay area, got a pay increase of a substantial amount, sold his house here and bought one there, sure it wasn't cheap but people can do it. He told me at least 5 Engineers have followed him out there and all are making substantially higher wages to offset the high COL. Aside from home ownership, which many had fears of severe doing here because of the lack of opportunity to fall back on plus the high property taxes and insurance rates the y are supposedly hat rppy with the move...

I applied for a job in Las Vegas because I was bored, it was in finance for a large internet retailer. They kept hounding me almost begging me to continue through with the interview. Its like they are desperate for good workers out west and they pay well. If my entire family wasnt here I would have taken it.

[Spring Hillian]

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Data please?

you're kidding, right??

[THX 1138]

Originally Posted by The b8nk

I applied for a job in Las Vegas because I was bored, it was in finance for a large internet retailer. They kept hounding me almost begging me to continue through with the interview. Its like they are desperate for good workers out west and they pay well. If my entire family wasnt here I would have taken it.

My friend was part of a layoff, the hiring company had recruiters flown here to do interviews at a local hotel..rented conf. room. It happened a few times from what he told me. They were well aware of the news, and knew where to go to get staff. Much of what I was told is on why they recruit from the East coast 1) there is shortage of qualified staff, mainly in part to the high number of STEM start-ups in the SF Bay Area and beyond 2) It's not an employers market there like it is here, not uncommon for companies to poach staff from other companies or competition with lucrative offers or stock options, 3)the flip side, the high COL scares a lot of people who have families from making the move or not moving at all due to your situation.

We will never see that here at all, my friend said he submitted his resume to a start-up in Fort Lauderdale perfectly qualified for the job, maybe too qualified but was never contacted or screened, he said it was because they did not want to pay for experience and education.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by THX 1138

the flip side, the high COL scares a lot of people who have families from making the move or not moving at all due to your situation.

As it should. I'd rather make $120K in FL than $200K in SF.

[THX 1138]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

As it should. I'd rather make $120K in FL than $200K in SF.

Except that you won't make $120K average in the STEM field, in Florida little alone South Florida unless your in upper level Management and those are few and far between...median STEM salary in the South Bay area is around $111K.

[chopchop0]

Originally Posted by THX 1138

Except that you won't make $120K average in the STEM field, in Florida little alone South Florida unless your in upper level Management and those are few and far between...median STEM salary in the South Bay area is around $111K.

Fine... $50K in the space coast working for Grumman or Harris will go MUCH farther than $111K in the bay area.

[The b8nk]

Originally Posted by chopchop0

As it should. I'd rather make $120K in FL than $200K in SF.

You would never even come close to 120k in Florida, LOL

Originally Posted by chopchop0

Fine... $50K in the space coast working for Grumman or Harris will go MUCH farther than $111K in the bay area.

What kind of idiot compares San Francisco to Melbourne Fl?

[kyle19125]

Originally Posted by The b8nk

Mcjobs

Originally Posted by PriusH8r

Data please?

Originally Posted by Spring Hillian

you're kidding, right??

Fairly compelling evidence...

Report: 64% of Florida job openings pay less than living wage | TBO.com, The Tampa Tribune and The Tampa Times