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Old 06-27-2019, 05:39 AM
 
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Don't move to Florida if you expect great schools or even good schools.
Another load of BS which is offensive to the thousands of great teachers and tens of thousands of hard-working students enrolled in magnet programs, IB programs and AP coursework every year.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:05 AM
 
Location: South Tampa, Maui, Paris
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Don't move to Florida if you expect great schools or even good schools.


As a Harvard alum, I do a lot of interviewing of applicants. Guess how many kids from Florida schools (all those public IB, magnet and charter schools included) get accepted?

Yup. Exactly.

The majority of the kids (all from Florida schools) I interview for Harvard have sky-high GPAs and tons of AP courses yet have no earthly idea what it takes to succeed in college. It's a shame.
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Old 06-27-2019, 07:50 AM
 
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Lots of good schools and students in Florida schools. Our problem is that they all leave for job prospects in better paying cities/states. We have issues with brain drain for sure.
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Old 06-27-2019, 08:11 AM
 
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Lots of good schools and students in Florida schools. Our problem is that they all leave for job prospects in better paying cities/states. We have issues with brain drain for sure.


https://www.forbes.com/sites/reneemo.../#476645fa3897

Maryland, No. 8.

Florida, No. 26.

Case closed.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:15 PM
 
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As a Harvard alum, I do a lot of interviewing of applicants. Guess how many kids from Florida schools (all those public IB, magnet and charter schools included) get accepted?

Yup. Exactly.

The majority of the kids (all from Florida schools) I interview for Harvard have sky-high GPAs and tons of AP courses yet have no earthly idea what it takes to succeed in college. It's a shame.
No doubt few are accepted with alums like yourself lending to the discrediting of FL grads. As if other states don't also produce grads with sky high GPAs, AP credit and no earthly idea of what it takes to succeed in college, especially minus the experience. By the way, I'ms a very close friend to someone in the world of college admissions who has worked everywhere from public four year universities to Ivy institutions and now a top tier post grad program for international students. There is no Florida bias and any admissions counselor worth their salt knows the better schools in each state and doesn't make assumptions based on some kind of gibberish put forth by those like yourself.
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Old 06-27-2019, 04:23 PM
 
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/reneemo.../#476645fa3897

Maryland, No. 8.

Florida, No. 26.

Case closed.
Case closed for what? The OP is leaving Maryland and moving to a state that ranks mid-pack. Whoop-dee-doo. 24 states rank lower including states I would bet that are perceived to have higher quality schools (Michigan, Rhode Island, California and Oregon) and out of curiosity Captain Harvard, how few from those lower ranking states are admitted to Harvard?
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Old 06-28-2019, 05:54 AM
 
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Case closed for what? The OP is leaving Maryland and moving to a state that ranks mid-pack. Whoop-dee-doo. 24 states rank lower including states I would bet that are perceived to have higher quality schools (Michigan, Rhode Island, California and Oregon) and out of curiosity Captain Harvard, how few from those lower ranking states are admitted to Harvard?


I believe it was Benjamin Franklin who said, "In this world nothing can be said to be certain, except death and taxes."

To that I would add, "Nobody moves to Florida for the schools or the restaurants."

Captain Harvard, I like that! GO CRIMSON!
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Old 06-28-2019, 10:25 AM
 
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The majority of the kids (all from Florida schools) I interview for Harvard have sky-high GPAs and tons of AP courses yet have no earthly idea what it takes to succeed in college.
I know some kids from Florida schools who were accepted to Harvard a few years back.

Thank goodness for them there are open minded folks doing the admissions interviews there.
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Old 06-28-2019, 02:52 PM
 
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I know some kids from Florida schools who were accepted to Harvard a few years back.

Thank goodness for them there are open minded folks doing the admissions interviews there.


It is not a question of open-mindedness.

It's not like we Harvard interviewers are sitting there thinking "This kid is a product of the poor Florida schools, therefore he is improperly educated and rejected."

We are interviewing Florida kids and comparing them to the applicants from other states and countries. And 9 times out of 10, the Florida kids cannot compete in terms of intellectual heft and critical thinking. Don't shoot the messenger.

This is a big reason why most parents, if they have the choice and care about quality of public schools, do not move to Florida. They stay stuck in Virginia, Massachusetts, or Iowa, or Illinois, or wherever, putting up with the taxes and the commutes and the nasty weather. For the quality public schools.

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Old 06-28-2019, 04:35 PM
 
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It is not a question of open-mindedness.

It's not like we Harvard interviewers are sitting there thinking "This kid is a product of the poor Florida schools, therefore he is improperly educated and rejected."

We are interviewing Florida kids and comparing them to the applicants from other states and countries. And 9 times out of 10, the Florida kids cannot compete in terms of intellectual heft and critical thinking. Don't shoot the messenger.

This is a big reason why most parents, if they have the choice and care about quality of public schools, do not move to Florida. They stay stuck in Virginia, Massachusetts, or Iowa, or Illinois, or wherever, putting up with the taxes and the commutes and the nasty weather. For the quality public schools.
Still your argument is full of holes. Does the same apply to states ranked 27th to 50th, or is Florida singled out based on some kind of special criteria employed here?
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