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Old 04-08-2007, 04:10 PM
 
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I have never lived in New York or New Jersey but reading this board it seems the taxes are very high there. This year most of Florida won't meet the projected tax income needed. Will the taxes go up ? Will we have a state tax ?

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/0...-estate-slump/
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Old 04-08-2007, 05:28 PM
 
Location: So. Dak.
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I have never lived in New York or New Jersey but reading this board it seems the taxes are very high there. This year most of Florida won't meet the projected tax income needed. Will the taxes go up ? Will we have a state tax ?

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/0...-estate-slump/
That's a good question, Firemed. I just can't see property taxes going up anymore. So many people can't afford to pay them the way it is. The state would be in worse shape because many would default on their homes and they'd get even LESS tax. Just don't know what the answer is.
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Old 04-09-2007, 07:56 AM
 
Location: Pasco County
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Just read an interesting article on AOL. A group called the Tax Foundation has published a list of local and state burdens for all 50 states.
Some of the results, rated from worst to best, are:
New York- Tax burden of 13.8% of income- Ranked 3rd highest.
New Jersey- Tax burden of 11.6%- Ranked 10th.
Florida- Tax burden of 10.0%- Ranked 38th.

It seems as though Florida has a long way to go before it catches up with NY or NJ.

Interestingly, North Carolina ranks 19th with a tax burden of 11.0%. That one surprised me. The three lowest tax burdens are in Texas (43rd at 9.5%), Alabama (46th at 8.8%) and Tennessee (48th at 8.5%).
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:03 AM
 
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My brother has a 2000SF house worth about 450K in Orange County, a suburb of NYC his prop taxes are 10K per year plus a 6% state income tax and the local sales tax is 8.75%. A friend out in Long Island, slightly larger house, worth about 750K taxes are almost 15K per year plus the state income taxes. Both houses cost about $500. per month to heat in the winter.

I believe we have hit the wall in Florida as goes property taxes. Our local govts' have been spending money like fools and now the day of reckoning has come. When the people start packing town meetings, as happened in North Port, the politicos start listening. Jammie is right, the tax base is being squeezed way too much. It will be interesting to see what the legislature come up with. I guess we will all know this June.
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Old 04-09-2007, 08:42 AM
 
Location: The best country in the world: the USA
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I have never lived in New York or New Jersey but reading this board it seems the taxes are very high there. This year most of Florida won't meet the projected tax income needed. Will the taxes go up ? Will we have a state tax ?

http://www.bloggingstocks.com/2007/0...-estate-slump/
Honestly, if you factor in the number of whacky liberal-types we get down here form NY, NJ, and Connecticut, FL taxes MIGHT become as high as NY... or maybe higher.

The funny thing is... the taxes are high in NY, but check out their public schools: they suck, kids bring guns, knifes, crack rocks, porn, hit the teachers, cuss at the teachers, and etc. Check out NY streets... they are disgusting.

Try New Haven, CT,,, that city is an absolute dump. I lived outside Yale for a while and man, every single night I heard shotguns going off down the streets. Every car on the street had to either stay unlocked OR have the driver's window busted. You think cops in New Haven or Hartford stop to check it out when they see a car with a busted window? Hell no!! They know a Latin King or MS-13 gang member is probably behind the car and will kill the cop right away. The malls were nasty. The people in New Haven were so savage, they spit on the floor INSIDE the malls and then put ice on the ground and kick it. This was 1996, I cannot even imagine that city today. It must be 100x worse. And the taxes there are super high.

You know, I have said it before, I'll say it again. If the northern liberals have their way, FL will suck as much as up north does and taxes will be high to slap Floridians in the face even harder.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:26 AM
 
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Sorry, you are not right here. Ny schools suck in NYC where the property taxes are very low(less than $3,000). Outside of Like upstate NY, Long Island the taxes are very high,($6-25,000) a year ...expensive but the schools are terrific.
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Old 09-15-2009, 11:45 AM
 
Location: Boston MA, by way of NYC
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I would have to agree and disagree with you both - there are plenty of magnet schools in NYC that are fantastic and there are plenty of schools that are awful just as there are in CT and Florida. I can say in my instance that it is a fact that NYC schools teach at an accelerated rate. This is good for the kids who can keep up and really bad for those who can't. I was fortunate, thankfully. When my mom moved me from NY to MD (schools are good), I was definitely advanced there. To the point that I was even offered to skip a grade (I chose not to). I think a lot of the schooling has to do with the parents and what they teach at home. Living in an impoverished area obviously does not help either. Taxes in LI and Upstate tend to be on the high side and schools in bayside and Whitestone in Queens (where you pay 3K in taxes) are way better than the schools in the bad areas of either LI or Upstate. And to the original post, I sure hope they don't go up!
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:13 PM
 
Location: where my heart is
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I work in the schools in Naples. I have worked in the schools in Smithtown, LI. Sorry, you cannot compare the two. Yes, you pay a lot more on LI, but you are getting something for your money. In Naples which is a retiree/snowbird heaven, they don't need or care about schools. LI, especially the middle class areas, EDUCATION is their TOP priority because it is in direct correlation to property values. That is not even a factor in Naples, Florida.
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Old 09-15-2009, 03:19 PM
 
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"when you go cheap,you get cheap"....LOL.... The level of education and the healthcare in FL pales in comparison to the Northeast and other parts of the country.

FL schools are among the worst in the nation. FL comes in 45 out the 50 states in students completing HS in 2009. Only 57% of HS students finish school.

I doubt you will ever see taxes that high, but neither will you ever the same quality of services either.

Agree with Tannaples. You pay more but you get more. Here you save on money, but end up paying in other ways like poor education and having to really, really careful as to what doctors you go to.

Which is why many leave the state if they need major surgery.
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Old 09-16-2009, 07:22 AM
 
Location: Central Fl
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Folks, let's stay on topic......the topic is TAXES.

Schools have been discussed else ware. If someone wants to start another thread on schools, that's fine.

When discussing state vs. state, you MUST understand that both Florida and NY are big diverse states. Just as south Florida is much different then the panhandle, western NY, (where I am typing this) is MUCH different then the downstate NYC area. Whole different worlds in fact.

For the record, my property taxes up here are 3x what they are compared to my home in Florida.

Frank
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