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Old 06-19-2011, 07:33 AM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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I had been slowly fixing up my 1995 F150 XLT SC 4x4. I bought it last July for 2200.00 and it ran great with 200,000 miles on 351 Cleaveland. I put another 2500.00 in preventive maint. parts and was going to get repainted minus bodywork (rust patches, 2 areas) and cover those with bling.

But, paint with bodywork was 6200.00 and still 4200.00 without. Also still needed rear main seal and new steering box. I thought time to trade, not worth it.

So I found and traded for a 2007 Dodge 1500 Quad cab SLT 4x4 white, with 108,000 highway miles. No dents, dings, or scratchs. Lots of options and runs perfect. It has 4.7L V-8 that gets up to 22mpg on highway. We rented one 2 yrs ago and got this mpg.

Loan value is 17,500.00 and we bought it from a good rep. used car dealer for 12995.00 plus 300.00 for side steps and 850.00 for installed double carport. Got a little carried away but we don't have a garage and it likes to hail around here.

So do you think we did good and does anyone have any experience with this truck and engine?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 06-19-2011, 09:53 AM
 
Location: Poway, CA
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Wouldn't the 351 in your old Ford have been a Windsor, not a Cleveland?

Mike
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:54 PM
 
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Wouldn't the 351 in your old Ford have been a Windsor, not a Cleveland?

Mike
Yes. It would be a Windsor block. After like 1980 something all 351s were windors. The cleveland was no longer manufactured after 1982.

Bigg, you are the one who needs to asks yourself, are you happy with the deal you got?

Dodges are my second choice for pickups behind Fords. Dodge in general has some great ideas great designs brilliant ideas. However, they usually fall flat on their face when the bring these ideas to market.

With any vehicle you can dump as much money as you want. As an investment you would never recover large amounts on a 16 year old pickup. If you put a ton of money into it, first focusing on mechanical issues than body and plan to drive it for another 10 years or 100,000 miles then yes it would have been a good deal.

As far as steering box... that wouldn't be the first thing I'd look at. I'd look at tie rod ends and just front end suspension first. The king pin would likely need replacement along with bushings and all that. The Twin traction beam suspension requires that sort of maintenance.
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Old 06-19-2011, 05:58 PM
 
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I'd stick with the Ford because your already that far into, and my experience with dodge trucks has not been good. You may be being a bigger problem after you've got most of the issues solved with the Ford. I have to warn you though I do like my Ford pickups.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:16 PM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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Wouldn't the 351 in your old Ford have been a Windsor, not a Cleveland?

Mike
Could be, I'm a dork when it comes to mechanics. I always say cleveland and no one has corrected me before.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:23 PM
 
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They have been windsor blocks as long as I can remember. The clevelands were a whole different motor. Design and whole 9 yards...

A ford like that can be a fun project, if you have some skills to do some of the work yourself. I am working on a 90 F150 I just put a flatbed on it and I plan to paint the cab and front end one of these days. Fix the hinges and rough spots.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:23 PM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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Yes. It would be a Windsor block. After like 1980 something all 351s were windors. The cleveland was no longer manufactured after 1982.

Bigg, you are the one who needs to asks yourself, are you happy with the deal you got?

Dodges are my second choice for pickups behind Fords. Dodge in general has some great ideas great designs brilliant ideas. However, they usually fall flat on their face when the bring these ideas to market.

With any vehicle you can dump as much money as you want. As an investment you would never recover large amounts on a 16 year old pickup. If you put a ton of money into it, first focusing on mechanical issues than body and plan to drive it for another 10 years or 100,000 miles then yes it would have been a good deal.

As far as steering box... that wouldn't be the first thing I'd look at. I'd look at tie rod ends and just front end suspension first. The king pin would likely need replacement along with bushings and all that. The Twin traction beam suspension requires that sort of maintenance.


My mechanic checked everything out and said steering box was starting to ooze oil but not serious yet. He recommended replacing it instead of rebuilding it. It had a lot of front end parts replaced and tie rods ends, etc. were fine.

I wanted the f150 to look good too but did not want to get over 10,000.00 invested and it looked like that was going to happen.

Yes, I am happy with Dodge. I owned a new one in 2006 with the Hemi and off road package but I like this 4.7 also. Better fuel economy. I think price was fair too.
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Old 06-19-2011, 08:30 PM
 
Location: Southwest Nebraska
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I'd stick with the Ford because your already that far into, and my experience with dodge trucks has not been good. You may be being a bigger problem after you've got most of the issues solved with the Ford. I have to warn you though I do like my Ford pickups.
I already traded and Dodge is hiding in my driveway from Hail storms coming our way. Already in last two hrs 6 tornadoes have been real near us. I still am a Ford fan and have owned over 15 new F150's in last 15 yrs.

But the crew cab on Ford has shorter box than my Dodge. I had a choice between a 2003 F150 Crew cab 4x4 xlt with 120,000 miles and a 5.4L for 11,500.00 but chose Dodge because of box size and color. Hopefully it well last me quite awhile since I only drive around 5,000 miles a yr.
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