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I don't think that was part of our discussion. We were discussing the word mestizo. Not all mestizos are Mexican, not all Mexicans are mestizos. A mestizo is anyone, Latin, American, Canadian, etc., who is a combination of Native American and European. There are many in the Americas. A plurality, you might say.
It may be erroneous, but to say that it is offensive to call a non-Mexican a Mexican because of an honest mistake is offensive in itself. It implies that there is something wrong with being Mexican or associated with that ethnic group.
If a person is being called a Mexican because the person directing the description is using it in a derogatory manner, well, I guess that is different.
Its insulting because the term is commonly used to denote people of Mexican and white decent. It is NOT used in the US, yet one person on here keeps referring to those of who are Native American and white as being Mestizo when our ancestors originated in places like the Great Plains, Black Hills, Smoky Mountains and NOT Mexico. So for instance calling someone who is part Choctaw a Mestizo is an insult because it is insinuating their family is not even from the US. Its further insultive because of the stigma Mexicans have as being illegal aliens sneaking across the US border even though yes not all of them are illegal. Still this is a rude name to call people who are not Mexican and this person has been told time and again it is not a term used in America. For him to keep shouting it at us is like using the N word in a black person's face. I also personally resent in recent years how everyone in the US with light brown skin, tan or olive skin is automatically now considered to be Mexican by white people. Even Asians now get mistaken as Mexicans.
Its insulting because the term is commonly used to denote people of Mexican and white decent. It is NOT used in the US, yet one person on here keeps referring to those of who are Native American and white as being Mestizo when our ancestors originated in places like the Great Plains, Black Hills, Smoky Mountains and NOT Mexico. So for instance calling someone who is part Choctaw a Mestizo is an insult because it is insinuating their family is not even from the US. Its further insultive because of the stigma Mexicans have as being illegal aliens sneaking across the US border even though yes not all of them are illegal. Still this is a rude name to call people who are not Mexican and this person has been told time and again it is not a term used in America. For him to keep shouting it at us is like using the N word in a black person's face. I also personally resent in recent years how everyone in the US with light brown skin, tan or olive skin is automatically now considered to be Mexican by white people. Even Asians now get mistaken as Mexicans.
I understand what you are saying, although you are reading beyond the basic premises of what I am asserting. I'll just leave it at that.
Its insulting because the term is commonly used to denote people of Mexican and white decent. It is NOT used in the US, yet one person on here keeps referring to those of who are Native American and white as being Mestizo when our ancestors originated in places like the Great Plains, Black Hills, Smoky Mountains and NOT Mexico. So for instance calling someone who is part Choctaw a Mestizo is an insult because it is insinuating their family is not even from the US. Its further insultive because of the stigma Mexicans have as being illegal aliens sneaking across the US border even though yes not all of them are illegal. Still this is a rude name to call people who are not Mexican and this person has been told time and again it is not a term used in America. For him to keep shouting it at us is like using the N word in a black person's face. I also personally resent in recent years how everyone in the US with light brown skin, tan or olive skin is automatically now considered to be Mexican by white people. Even Asians now get mistaken as Mexicans.
I hate this too. In tenth grade, a white guy in my special education class would always think of me as a Mexican even though I'm non-Hispanic and Caucasian. He would refuse to believe that I'm white. I have dark brown hair, dark brown eyes, and an olive skin tone. I'm 75% Scandinavian and 25% French. I'm sure my aforementioned features came from my French ancestry. I don't understand these people that think you have to have blond hair, blue eyes, and paper white skin in order to be white or European American.
I was reading some of Manolon's posts and I was a bit confused as to why he/she was thinking all people with European and Native American ancestry were Mestizo too. Although I never said anything to him/her about it like you.
Yeap manolon is a ''he'' from spain who also posts in the history forums. He's a funny character as he has stated many times how he despises us Americans also including northern Europeans/British although i believe he's a decient guy who's just a little misguided about our culture and use of slang terms since he's over in spain .
LOL .... don't get him started about the Vikings as he'll blow a fuse .
Its insulting because the term is commonly used to denote people of Mexican and white decent. It is NOT used in the US, yet one person on here keeps referring to those of who are Native American and white as being Mestizo when our ancestors originated in places like the Great Plains, Black Hills, Smoky Mountains and NOT Mexico. So for instance calling someone who is part Choctaw a Mestizo is an insult because it is insinuating their family is not even from the US. Its further insultive because of the stigma Mexicans have as being illegal aliens sneaking across the US border even though yes not all of them are illegal. Still this is a rude name to call people who are not Mexican and this person has been told time and again it is not a term used in America. For him to keep shouting it at us is like using the N word in a black person's face. I also personally resent in recent years how everyone in the US with light brown skin, tan or olive skin is automatically now considered to be Mexican by white people. Even Asians now get mistaken as Mexicans.
The problem with the poster manolon ..... is that he being a european thinks that all of North America is monolithic in our use of terms and slang
I have laugh as he doesn't even know what we call ''mix race'' here in New Mexico as he thinks that we all say Meztizo over here
I had two complete strangers stop and talk to me in philapinno (SP?) I'm puerto rican. Another Asian man asked me if I was Asian I said no I'm puerto rician he said are you sure...LOL that one really made me laugh.
I had two complete strangers stop and talk to me in philapinno (SP?) I'm puerto rican. Another Asian man asked me if I was Asian I said no I'm puerto rician he said are you sure...LOL that one really made me laugh.
Do you mean Filipino?
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Oddly enough, people have asked me whether I was mixed with Indian (India; not Native American), which is odd since I think I look pure bred African American! A cashier in a retail store I frequent one day told me she and a co-worker had been watching me for awhile, and she decided one day she would get up enough urge to ask me, without being rude. So, one day, she did just that: She asked me if I was mixed with Indian. I laughed and told her no! I told her, however, if she were to see my mother, her Native American genes are so strong in her bone structure that when we were growing up, people would always come up and ask her about her Native American tribal heritage.
I really couldn't care less what race people think I am because of one really big reason!!!
Here in Canada no one cares and it really makes no difference what you are. I like it that many think I'm part Asian. I think the Asians are really good looking people LOL. As time goes on less and less people really give a hoot. I have 7 Grandchildren and 2 more on the way and they are the biggest mix that there ever was. I mean everything. Half black, quarter Jewish, half Scottish, half Mexican, half Dutch, Half German, a bit of Chinese and others.
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Although I never said anything to him/her about it like you.
