Where does the West start? (agricultural, cities, courses)

[HarryBTL]

In more modern times the west is considered everything west of the plains states and thus west of ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX. Back when it included all of the Plains states as well.

Ofcourse some consider CO, WY, MT, NM, UT, ID Rocky mountain states and basically AZ, NV, CA, OR, WA The West.

[bchris02]

Originally Posted by slo1318

Correct the major climate change from the humid east to the dry west. Just west of Ft Worth.

Co-incidentally, that also seems to be where Dixie and the Midwest die out culturally.

Originally Posted by HarryBTL

In more modern times the west is considered everything west of the plains states and thus west of ND, SD, NE, KS, OK, TX. Back when it included all of the Plains states as well.

Ofcourse some consider CO, WY, MT, NM, UT, ID Rocky mountain states and basically AZ, NV, CA, OR, WA The West.

The western third of the plains states and Texas are very much the West.

[polo89]

The Trans-Pecos Region of Texas.

[HarryBTL]

Originally Posted by bchris02

Co-incidentally, that also seems to be where Dixie and the Midwest die out culturally.





The western third of the plains states and Texas are very much the West.

Depends on what it is? Via weather people and such see my explanation BUT with this i think yours matches better outside of se TX. Culturally yours is closer/more accurate. However i would exclude areas east of say I35 and or se Texas.

Texas is a hard one east of I-35.. While it is not Dixie ( I consider MS, AL, GA, SC, NC, FL, TN Dixie ) it does not have the traditional western feel to the area. Beaumont, TX is alot like S.LA as is a good part of the Houston area.

[polo89]

Houston does have a lot of cultural similarities to Louisiana more so than Texas.

[just_sayin']

Originally Posted by bchris02

Co-incidentally, that also seems to be where Dixie and the Midwest die out culturally.





The western third of the plains states and Texas are very much the West.

I agree with that picture....it's pretty much exactly the area I was talking about on the first page.

[eschaton]

I think a lot comes down to how you define the Great Plains

Here's a wiki map of the Great Plains. The darkest green portion is tallgrass prairie, and unquestionably not part of the west. The lightest is shortgrass prairie, which most people would call western. The section in the middle is more questionable.

[AQUEMINI331]

I remember in grade school learning about some sort of climate line that separated arid climates from humid ones. Everything east was a humid climate, everything west of it was dry. The map someone showed earlier of the 100th meridian seems similar, but I don't remember it being a hard and fast line like 100 W longitude or whatever. What I seem to remember was a squiggly line. Anyone know what I'm talking about?

[bchris02]

Originally Posted by eschaton

I think a lot comes down to how you define the Great Plains

Here's a wiki map of the Great Plains. The darkest green portion is tallgrass prairie, and unquestionably not part of the west. The lightest is shortgrass prairie, which most people would call western. The section in the middle is more questionable.

The middle section is definitely the gradient where the South and Midwest gradually transitions into the real West. I would say that section, at least in Oklahoma and Texas, identifies moreso with the South.

[TyrannosaurusZack]

The Mississippi river duhh. Everything East of it is back East, everything West is out West, lol. Actually in my personal opinion the West is purely states with an In N Out.