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Old 07-11-2018, 01:38 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Well, that's super important. (Must have changed a lot from when I lived there, but if so, yay on them!)
He doesn't live in Clemson. A few days ago he was talking up the weather in Denver on the Denver forum and said he showed a friend around Denver.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:39 PM
 
Location: OC
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Ok. So an Asian is cool with Harvard's admission policy which appears to discriminate against Asians but you are really concerned about Confederate flag supporters in the south.
I'm not concerned with either, to be honest. Am I pro-affirmative action or any sort of social engineering? No. I'm big on meritocracy and feel race should be removed as a criteria for admissions, but not my call, and I'm not sure it's proven that Harvard is prejudiced vs Asians as 22% of their incoming class was Asian.

Admission standards isn't always strictly grades and test scores. For example, George W Bush was not accepted into UT, but was into Harvard. This happens in public schools and I'm sure it happens more in private schools.

Are you doing the Spin and Sip Ride today?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:40 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I'm not concerned with either, to be honest. Am I pro-affirmative action or any sort of social engineering? No. I'm big on meritocracy and feel race should be removed as a criteria for admissions, but not my call, and I'm not sure it's proven that Harvard is prejudiced vs Asians as 22% of their incoming class was Asian.

Admission standards isn't always strictly grades and test scores. For example, George W Bush was not accepted into UT, but was into Harvard. This happens in public schools and I'm sure it happens more in private schools.

Are you doing the Spin and Sip Ride today?
This proves your accusations of racism are partisan in nature, in my view.

I don't live in Clemson. That was your assumption based on my screenname. I went to college at Clemson.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:41 PM
 
Location: OC
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This proves your accusations of racism are partisan in nature, in my view.
Who have I accused of being racist?
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:42 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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Who have I accused of being racist?
Just upthread you were talking about white racist Democrats switched to the GOP.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:51 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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So GOP leaders and Democrat leaders, and their voters, got together and mutually agreed to switch?

Why don't I hear GOP politicians pushing for segregation if there was a big switch? Why did mostly white Republican voters elect a black man , Tim Scott , for senator in SC?

Why would the GOP decide to adopt a racist platform after popular support for segregation dwindled so much the Democratic party gave it up? That makes no sense.

The reason Democrats lose in south today has to do with their stance on issues that have nothing to do with race.
I don’t think you’re really interested in the answer because it hurts your narrative, but in case I’m being too cynical about your position, here’s a great history of how the Republican Party has evolved.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/121487...-trump-lincoln
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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I don’t think you’re really interested in the answer because it hurts your narrative, but in case I’m being too cynical about your position, here’s a great history of how the Republican Party has evolved.

https://www.vox.com/2016/7/20/121487...-trump-lincoln
A 'great history' written by a partisan Democrat.

The reality is the facts contradict your narrative. For example, Tim Scott being elected by mostly white Republicans in SC. You guys seem to imply Tim Scott is a frontman for white racists. That makes no sense.
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Old 07-11-2018, 01:59 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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A 'great history' written by a partisan Democrat.

The reality is the facts contradict your narrative. For example, Tim Scott being elected by mostly white Republicans in SC. You guys seem to imply Tim Scott is a frontman for white racists. That makes no sense.
Guess I’m not being too cynical.

Please don’t put words in my mouth. I haven’t said a thing about Tim Scott. Read the history. You might learn something.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Greenville SC 'Waterfall City'
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This is how you know it is a partisan article: ' And indeed, Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina switched his party affiliation from Democratic to Republican specifically for this reason.'

All the other segregationist Democrat senators did not switch to the GOP, including Robert Byrd and Al Gore's father who both filibustered the Civil RIghts Act of 1964. If the article doesn't mention that, it is intending to deceive the reader.


You don't appear to research the facts independently.

I understand you haven't mentioned TIm Scott. You also havn't explained why these white racists if they switched to GOP would vote for Tim Scott.

Strom Thurmond switched b/c of his views on foreign policy, not b/c the GOP adopted a racist platform.
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Old 07-11-2018, 02:07 PM
 
Location: 0.83 Atmospheres
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This is how you know it is a partisan article: ' And indeed, Sen. Strom Thurmond of South Carolina switched his party affiliation from Democratic to Republican specifically for this reason.'

All the other segregationist Democrat senators did not switch to the GOP, including Robert Byrd and Al Gore's father who both filibustered the Civil RIghts Act of 1964. If the article doesn't mention that, it is intending to deceive the reader.


You don't appear to research the facts independently.

I understand you haven't mentioned TIm Scott. You also havn't explained why these white racists if they switched to GOP would vote for Tim Scott.
Bro, Even the National Review says Thurmond switched parties because of the Civil Rights Act.

Who have I called a racist?
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