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Charlotte, the Piedmont Triad (G-boro, W-S, HP), and the Triangle (R,D, CH) are a part of what is referred to as the Piedmont Crescent. It's a megalopolis of sorts within NC, and contains much of the power in the state.
I didn't think Charlotte was part of the Piedmont Crescent; I always thought it was the long string of urban areas along I-40, between Raleigh and Winston-Salem.
edit:looked it up on Wikipedia, and you're correct.
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I lived in Western NC for a while, and believe me when I say that many of the folks there would not have agreed that it's balanced.
yeah, I live in Wilmington now, and everyone complains that the political power is all concentrated in the Triangle. I've heard the same thing from folks in Western NC.
southern california dominates california and to a good extent national politics due to its massive population.
Southern California's sphere of influence on the rest of California pretty much ends in Bakersfield.
Politically,
Southern California outside of central Los Angeles is conservative and getting moreso. This is one trend where I believe LA followed the rest of the country.
in Northern California, the trend is the other way around. The liberal Bay Area is actually becoming moreso and this wave of growing liberalism is actually increasing in the Central Valley and Metro Sacramento.
Personally I think California is the most balanced state in the U.S. by far. Los Angeles and San Francisco are both popular, both are global; both dominate their part of the state, all the while being two cities going in two different directions. L.A. conservative / S.F. liberal.
Los Angeles is the true super power on a world scale level compatible to New York, but California is so huge that L.A. and San Fran don’t bump heads like say, D.C. and Baltimore do.
I also find it interesting that Los Angeles and New York balance out the U.S. by being on separate coast.
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New York (Manhattan only IMO) feels huge.
Los Angeles feels huge to an amazing almost unbelievable degree in the fact that the population seems to never end. When flying in from a plane it looks like it never stops.
People who say L.A. is not dense must not have ever been to L.A. I’m telling you L.A. looks like a planet more than a city.
I love L.A.
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Southern California's sphere of influence on the rest of California pretty much ends in Bakersfield.
Politically,
Southern California outside of central Los Angeles is conservative and getting moreso. This is one trend where I believe LA followed the rest of the country.
in Northern California, the trend is the other way around. The liberal Bay Area is actually becoming moreso and this wave of growing liberalism is actually increasing in the Central Valley and Metro Sacramento.
in my opinion i feel your opinion is misleading. The recall and reelection of arnold as governor serve as proof. I would not call the recent elections a growing sign of liberalism as much as a willingness to give democrates a chance. The bay area on a whole is not conservative either. Silicone valley and the 680 corridor for example are rather conservative in relation to the bay. The central valley is not liberal. Sacremento politics of technorcates and buracrates and other government employees is a whole different world. Completley different interest groups fighting for that area.
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Los Angeles is the true super power on a world scale level compatible to New York, but California is so huge that L.A. and San Fran don’t bump heads like say, D.C. and Baltimore do.>>
Believe it, the only way DC and Balto "bump" heads is in the soft spots of Baltimore's head.
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I disagree. The Upstate cities would've declined with or without the presence of NYC in their state. It is related to what they built their economies on.
I'm originally from Rochester. We and the people we knew there were no more likely to go to NYC for anything than would someone from Ohio or Arizona. The upstate cities have their own economies that meet the needs of their residents without depending on NYC. We might travel to NYC for a vacation or a Broadway play, but everything else we needed was in our region. Many NYers have never been to NYC, they haven't needed to go. Contrast that with MN where I live now. The Twin Cities dominate everything; I doubt there are many Minnesotans who have never been to the Twin Cities.
That then is a good example of imbalance. The two parts of the state are forever going away from each other. The region has never regained or never was too balanced unlike the spheres around Chicago and LA. Upstate NY has been an outmigration zone for decades. They haven't been meeting the needs as Upstate NYers have long time left those areas.
People still move to the LA, and Chicago areas, also NYC. NY as a state keeps losing represenation. Check with Gov Spitzer who won on that philosophy and to loosen the nepotism grip in Albany by providing more jobs to keep people in the upstate regions.
in my opinion i feel your opinion is misleading. The recall and reelection of arnold as governor serve as proof. I would not call the recent elections a growing sign of liberalism as much as a willingness to give democrates a chance. The bay area on a whole is not conservative either. Silicone valley and the 680 corridor for example are rather conservative in relation to the bay. The central valley is not liberal. Sacremento politics of technorcates and buracrates and other government employees is a whole different world. Completley different interest groups fighting for that area.
Im not saying that the Bay Area is flaming liberal like San Francisco, Oakland and Berkeley.
What I am saying is that Santa Clara, Contra Costa and Sacramento Counties as recently as 30 years ago were Conservative strongholds. Contra Costa County for a long time was referred to as Orange County North due to their politics.
Today,
Things have changed significantly. All 3 of these 1M+ counties have resoundingly voted democrat in most national and state races for a while now.
Arnold Schwarzenneger got more votes in the Bay Area this last time around because he has proven himself to be far more to left-leaning on several social issues and people like that. The people most dissapointed with him are Republicans.
Southern California on the other hand, seems to have followed a national trend toward becoming more conservative. I think the rise of evangelical christians down there is partly to blame. But the OC, Inland Empire, San Diego and Ventura Co. are all red as red can be.
Northern CA isnt like that at all. Last election, Richard Pombo, staunch GOP rep from Stockton lost his seat to a democrat-that was a huge victory considering how powerful he was in DC.
In fact, the Bay Area doesnt have a single Republican in its entire 10-member congressional delegation to the House.
Los Angeles is the true super power on a world scale level compatible to New York
The problem with this statement is that San Francisco is a world city at the center of a global powerhouse metropolitan area that exceeds LA in many ways, whose innovations and dynamics have global implications, that is far more iconic than LA is.
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