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To expand upon my previous post in regards to Oklahoma vs Virginia, both are still very Southern to me. Oklahoma probably is less so compared to Virginia, because Virginia has a lot of Confederate history and was the definition of the South for a long time. No amount of Northern transplants can change what Virginia used to be, which is fine. I will agree that Conservatism does not equal Southern.
This overstated, at least in NOVA. It's not just about "northern transplants" locals are literally attempting to wipe confederate heritage from NOVA all the time.
High schools, monuments, and highways across the state have proposals to remove confederate names. A previous Lt. Governor canadite has already stated she wants to remove all confederate monuments in the state of Virginia.
Now I still consider Virginia southern as a whole, but NOVA at least has clearly made it a point that it doesn't want to be associated with being the "capital of the confederacy" anymore.
This is a map of the south from Cooper & Knotts study, graded from most southern to least southern.
This doesn't include Texas????
As for Oklahoma vs Virginia, I would guess Oklahoma, but I took a drive about an hour outside of DC yesterday and confederate flags certainly popped up. Virginia is deep south country I guess. Never thought of that.
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This doesn't include Texas????
As for Oklahoma vs Virginia, I would guess Oklahoma, but I took a drive about an hour outside of DC yesterday and confederate flags certainly popped up. Virginia is deep south country I guess. Never thought of that.
There are confederate flags in upstate NY and PA as well, just for reference. I've been witness to this.
As for Oklahoma vs Virginia, I would guess Oklahoma, but I took a drive about an hour outside of DC yesterday and confederate flags certainly popped up. Virginia is deep south country I guess. Never thought of that.
As for Oklahoma vs Virginia, I would guess Oklahoma, but I took a drive about an hour outside of DC yesterday and confederate flags certainly popped up. Virginia is deep south country I guess. Never thought of that.
The study, which is a continuation of the studies conducted by John Shelton Reed at the UNC, is based on southern oriented terminology in businesses and public spaces, it didn't include cultural or self-identification aspects.
Here is a fun sort of survey by a real estate firm in NC.
Oklahoma is a weird mix of midwest, southwest, Texas and south. Cowboy culture is very strong.
As someone who has lived in each extreme region of Oklahoma and in the middle (OKC), this is probably the most accurate description on the thread. And while southern probably is the strongest element among all of them it is highly annoying when people try and classify Oklahoma as a purely southern state because it just isn't.
Meanwhile, it would seem that NOVA is the only thing that throws a monkey wrench into the "southernness" of Virginia.
I would guess that NOVA is less "southern" than any place in Oklahoma save maybe the border counties of NW Oklahoma and SW Kansas. But for obviously different reasons.
Being Baptist doesn't make a place Southern. Is it a Southern influence? Yes but that's all it is by itself.
No, being Christian doesn't make someone southern, but being Baptist kind of does though. It's the largest form of Christianity found in the south and the definition of the Bible belt is more based around where there's Baptist. And Oklahoma is like 2 times more Baptist than Virginia.
As for Oklahoma vs Virginia, I would guess Oklahoma, but I took a drive about an hour outside of DC yesterday and confederate flags certainly popped up. Virginia is deep south country I guess. Never thought of that.
As someone from Chicago, lot's of our blue collar workers fly confederate flags on their trucks, and it's not like you don't see confederate flags in Maryland either. You'll find those flags north and south of DC.
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