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Pittsburgh is a dense, urban legacy city. Beyond Allegeny county (where Pittsburgh's true suburbs lie), most of the MSA is rural and undeveloped, with a smattering of practically-deserted former mill towns. The city, while not exactly the picture of diversity, is 26% black. The MSA is among the whitest in America, 90%.
What other MSA is dramatically different from its anchor city?
New Orleans feels pretty different from the surrounding area. It's more cosmopolitan and diverse than its suburbs, and a lot of people who live in the city would never consider moving out to the burbs
I'd argue St. Louis. The city is much poorer and decrepid and dying compared to St. Louis County and St. Charles County which are newer, thriving, less full of crime, etc. St. Louis is a great city but compared to its suburbs it is dramatically different.
Pittsburgh is a dense, urban legacy city. Beyond Allegeny county (where Pittsburgh's true suburbs lie), most of the MSA is rural and undeveloped, with a smattering of practically-deserted former mill towns. The city, while not exactly the picture of diversity, is 26% black. The MSA is among the whitest in America, 90%.
What other MSA is dramatically different from its anchor city?
A lot of Northeastern and Midwestern areas are like this.
On the other hand, even in the Pittsburgh area, its Blackest municipalities are actually outside of the city. Wilkinsburg, Aliquippa, Homestead, McKeesport, Clairton and a few others have higher Black percentages. This doesn't include others that are around the same percentage as Pittsburgh.
Miami-Fort Lauderdale (South Florida/Southeast Florida) counts here.
The city of Miami and Miami-Dade County are culturally very immigrant heavy and in particular very Latin American heavy with decreasing influence of Americans and American born persons. The county in general, other than one or two hotspots that are popular for high-income people from anywhere in America or world, is for the most part a county awashed with immigrants and increasingly so. Lots of the immigrant communities established over the course of the last 40 years, there are distinguished neighborhoods and districts for each group, seemingly, and the level of interaction is more abnormal and hostile between certain groups, depending which country they are from.
Then go north to Broward County, Florida which is anchored by Fort Lauderdale. Today Broward County is what Miami-Dade was about 35 years ago. A very solid mix of domestic born American transplants, some locals of South Florida, and lots of immigrants as well, from both Europe and Latin America. This county has no dominant feel with regards to where people are from, overseas or domestically from another part of the United States and it shows culturally speaking.
Then go another county to the north of Broward, to Palm Beach County, which is centered around West Palm Beach. This county is stereotypical South Florida. This is where the American transplants are moving to, especially from the Northeast Corridor and the Midwestern United States, but significantly more so from the major Northeastern states. This county is more suburbanized than the other two and is dominated culturally by American culture that is transplanted from places like New York, Boston, Chicago, Washington DC, Philadelphia, and even some Canadian cities like Toronto and the like. You'll immediately notice a larger presence of Jewish people in Palm Beach County, more pizza joints, more bagel places, more things that you'd typically associate with the Northeast here.
Then the CSA includes areas like the Port Saint Lucie MSA, which for all intents and purposes is basically now what Palm Beach County was 30 years ago. A place that is popular among native South Floridians that desire to remain close to home but will not nor no longer can afford to deal with the exorbitant costs that come from living in the Tri-County Area to its south. This area is increasingly becoming a refuge destination for those that are either prices out or in search or larger living spaces, this is essentially a large exurb of the Southeast Florida metropolis now. This is also very much culturally American and in line with the suburban norms of America.
So my answer would be the city of Miami, not only with cities adjacent to it that serve different functions (I.E. Miami Beach) but also because it is so dramatically different from areas in the rest of its metropolitan area that at times, culturally speaking, Southeast Florida could fit into a spectrum of a plethora of different cultures that draw their origination in both South Florida but also domestically and abroad.
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I'd argue St. Louis. The city is much poorer and decrepid and dying compared to St. Louis County and St. Charles County which are newer, thriving, less full of crime, etc. St. Louis is a great city but compared to its suburbs it is dramatically different.
This was the first city that came to my mind as well. The psychological divide between city and suburbs around St. Louis is very palpable. It's almost as if the city of St. Louis is just incompatible with the rest of Missouri.
I'd argue St. Louis. The city is much poorer and decrepid and dying compared to St. Louis County and St. Charles County which are newer, thriving, less full of crime, etc. St. Louis is a great city but compared to its suburbs it is dramatically different.
I think this kind of generalization is really damaging to the City of St. Louis and only perpetuates the stigma. Yeah, St. Louis City is different than its surrounding suburbs, but the same could be said for every major central city. The dichotomy is unique here because of the city/county divide, but the the County certainly has plenty of its own serious problems, most pronounced in the inner-ring suburbs. The County is just bigger so it hides its wounds better. But to say that St. Louis City is "dying" is not at all accurate, and you're doing a disservice by making such a reckless assertion.
I think Milwaukee would be a good example from a city that differs substantially from the balance of its metro area. Unlike most other large metro areas, the nonwhite and lower income population is almost completely concentrated in the central city. Not implying that the city of Milwaukee lacks a white population, nor that it is uniformly poor - but the suburbs are mostly racially homogeneous and economically working class to affluent. The outlying counties (Waukesha, Ozaukee, and Washington) have among the lowest poverty rates in the nation.
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