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Actually Atlanta is just outside of the traditional Black Belt but the core counties of the metro will demographically resemble Black Belt counties when it comes to Black people due to high Black in-migration for the past several decades.
I see your point, but IMO Atlanta and any City in a Deep South State is in fact a Deep South City or what ever region it is or belongs to that's what it is. It's just a progressive deep South City and that's a good thing for the deep south. You may not like your family but its still your family!! Where we need to stop is when we try to disassociate ourselves from who or what we are and trying to be something else, let's embrace it and embrace the diversity of the deep South. It kinda makes us look bad. Who ever said the deep south can't have big progressive Cities, with busy Airports, Subway systems, Big City traffic, sky scrapers, country talking people, transplants, and people from international Countries, etc. we do, just like every other region in the Country. I will use Atlanta and lets just say Georgia cities as a whole as the example here. Atlanta and other larger Georgia Cities let's say Macon, Augusta, etc. received large Migration of Rural blacks in their inner Cities back in the day. That's why you have so may country sounding, country blacks in those Cities inner city neighborhoods while the burbs in many cases are more Transplants from other Cities, States, even countries etc. When this occurred you had a large White flight migration taking place as well, especially during the 1960's, 70's and 80's from the inner city. Where things differ with a huge Metro like Atlanta, vs. Macon, Augusta, Columbus, etc., it being an International City, with an international Airport received a huge influx of Transplants from Many States, and abroad Totally transforming the place. Even in current day, now the Inner City Atlanta area is Transforming due to Gentrification and reverse Migration. Many white's are moving back into the Inner City along with many International residents and transplants more than ever before, yet changing this Deep South City of Atlanta even more. We can argue this is happen in much smaller Metro's/ CSA like Macon on a much smaller level. Especially around the Warner Robins area which is very diverse due to Robins AFB. Inner city Macon is also starting to show a reverse Migration of sorts, especially with all the Loft Construction going on in the are.
I see your point, but IMO Atlanta and any City in a Deep South State is in fact a Deep South City or what ever region it is or belongs to that's what it is. It's just a progressive deep South City and that's a good thing for the deep south. You may not like your family but its still your family!! Where we need to stop is when we try to disassociate ourselves from who or what we are and trying to be something else, let's embrace it and embrace the diversity of the deep South. It kinda makes us look bad. Who ever said the deep south can't have big progressive Cities, with busy Airports, Subway systems, Big City traffic, sky scrapers, country talking people, transplants, and people from international Countries, etc. we do, just like every other region in the Country. I will use Atlanta and lets just say Georgia cities as a whole as the example here. Atlanta and other larger Georgia Cities let's say Macon, Augusta, etc. received large Migration of Rural blacks in their inner Cities back in the day. That's why you have so may country sounding, country blacks in those Cities inner city neighborhoods while the burbs in many cases are more Transplants from other Cities, States, even countries etc. When this occurred you had a large White flight migration taking place as well, especially during the 1960's, 70's and 80's from the inner city. Where things differ with a huge Metro like Atlanta, vs. Macon, Augusta, Columbus, etc., it being an International City, with an international Airport received a huge influx of Transplants from Many States, and abroad Totally transforming the place. Even in current day, now the Inner City Atlanta area is Transforming due to Gentrification and reverse Migration. Many white's are moving back into the Inner City along with many International residents and transplants more than ever before, yet changing this Deep South City of Atlanta even more. We can argue this is happen in much smaller Metro's/ CSA like Macon on a much smaller level. Especially around the Warner Robins area which is very diverse due to Robins AFB. Inner city Macon is also starting to show a reverse Migration of sorts, especially with all the Loft Construction going on in the are.
I simply don't think the TRUE Deep South corresponds to state boundaries. There's nothing Deep South about Helen or Dahlonega or Blue Ridge. Atlanta is geographically closer to the Deep South but it lies just outside of the region. I don't have any biases towards the Deep South as some of the nation's most beloved cities and some of my favorites (e.g., Savannah, Charleston) are in the region.
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I simply don't think the TRUE Deep South corresponds to state boundaries. There's nothing Deep South about Helen or Dahlonega or Blue Ridge. Atlanta is geographically closer to the Deep South but it lies just outside of the region. I don't have any biases towards the Deep South as some of the nation's most beloved cities and some of my favorites (e.g., Savannah, Charleston) are in the region.
The Deep South IMO is the Coastal Plain of the following states: SC,GA,FL north of Ocala, AL, MS, LA, AR (SE part of the state), and TX east of US 75&I-45
The Deep South IMO is the Coastal Plain of the following states: SC,GA,FL north of Ocala, AL, MS, LA, AR (SE part of the state), and TX east of US 75&I-45
The Deep South IMO is the Coastal Plain of the following states: SC,GA,FL north of Ocala, AL, MS, LA, AR (SE part of the state), and TX east of US 75&I-45
Which strengthens the phrase DEEP SOUTH, I don't know why some people have a hard time understanding that.
I simply don't think the TRUE Deep South corresponds to state boundaries. There's nothing Deep South about Helen or Dahlonega or Blue Ridge. Atlanta is geographically closer to the Deep South but it lies just outside of the region. I don't have any biases towards the Deep South as some of the nation's most beloved cities and some of my favorites (e.g., Savannah, Charleston) are in the region.
When I think of the deep South, I think of South Carolina, to North Louisiana, Atlanta included. I've been to Helen and it's not that it feels particularly deep south but it doesn't feel far removed from Atlanta even though it's almost Tennessee. I can see SC and GA being removed but where else would they fit?
When I think of the deep South, I think of South Carolina, to North Louisiana, Atlanta included. I've been to Helen and it's not that it feels particularly deep south but it doesn't feel far removed from Atlanta even though it's almost Tennessee. I can see SC and GA being removed but where else would they fit?
Most of SC would be the Deep South (the Upstate would be excluded) as well as over half of GA. The foothills and mountains are not part of the region and are part of the Upper South IMO.
Most of SC would be the Deep South (the Upstate would be excluded) as well as over half of GA. The foothills and mountains are not part of the region and are part of the Upper South IMO.
Atlanta too? It's in the foothills if I am guessing the correct definition.
Atlanta too? It's in the foothills if I am guessing the correct definition.
Yep. I don't necessarily have an issue with people saying that Atlanta is the Deep South as I get where they are coming from, but it lies just outside the region to me.
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Yep. I don't necessarily have an issue with people saying that Atlanta is the Deep South as I get where they are coming from, but it lies just outside the region to me.
Exactly, Atlanta is on the Piedmont which is the start of the Upper South to me. Now Savannah, Brunswick, Valdosta, Waycross, Plains, Albany, those are Georgia cities in the Deep South
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Where we need to stop is when we try to disassociate ourselves from who or what we are and trying to be something else, let's embrace it and embrace the diversity of the deep South. It kinda makes us look bad. Who ever said the deep south can't have big progressive Cities, with busy Airports, Subway systems, Big City traffic, sky scrapers, country talking people, transplants, and people from international Countries, etc. we do, just like every other region in the Country. I will use Atlanta and lets just say Georgia cities as a whole as the example here. Atlanta and other larger Georgia Cities let's say Macon, Augusta, etc. received large Migration of Rural blacks in their inner Cities back in the day. That's why you have so may country sounding, country blacks in those Cities inner city neighborhoods while the burbs in many cases are more Transplants from other Cities, States, even countries etc. When this occurred you had a large White flight migration taking place as well, especially during the 1960's, 70's and 80's from the inner city. Where things differ with a huge Metro like Atlanta, vs. Macon, Augusta, Columbus, etc., it being an International City, with an international Airport received a huge influx of Transplants from Many States, and abroad Totally transforming the place. Even in current day, now the Inner City Atlanta area is Transforming due to Gentrification and reverse Migration. Many white's are moving back into the Inner City along with many International residents and transplants more than ever before, yet changing this Deep South City of Atlanta even more. We can argue this is happen in much smaller Metro's/ CSA like Macon on a much smaller level. Especially around the Warner Robins area which is very diverse due to Robins AFB. Inner city Macon is also starting to show a reverse Migration of sorts, especially with all the Loft Construction going on in the are.
