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For the Northeast, I'd probably argue Philadelphia vs. Boston. For the Midwest, I'd argue St. Louis vs. Cleveland and Kansas City vs. either Milwaukee or Cincinnati and Indianapolis vs. Columbus and Detroit vs. Minneapolis. For the South, I'd probably say Dallas vs. Atlanta or Atlanta vs. Miami. The West is a tougher one for me to call because I can't seem to find two evenly matched cities there: maybe Denver vs. Seattle? What cities would you say are the most evenly matched by region?
Houston vs. Dallas (Texas)
San Antonio vs Austin (Texas)
Cleveland vs Pittsburgh (Rustbelt)
Portland vs Vancouver, BC (Northwest)
Boise vs. Spokane (Northwest)
Omaha vs Des Moines vs Wichita (Midwest)
Chicago vs Toronto (Great Lakes)
Is Denver west or midwest? Some people see Denver as the western border of the midwest.
Denver is firmly situated in the west, not midwest. Where the Rockies meet the plains is considered by most to be the beginning of the western United States. Not to mention Denver was established as a gold mining camp for which the west in known. Additionally, those of us who live here consider ourselves "westerners".
Houston vs. Dallas (Texas)
San Antonio vs Austin (Texas)
Cleveland vs Pittsburgh (Rustbelt)
Portland vs Vancouver, BC (Northwest)
Boise vs. Spokane (Northwest)
Omaha vs Des Moines vs Wichita (Midwest)
Chicago vs Toronto (Great Lakes)
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The Rustbelt is not a geographical region.
A bit nitpicky. You're right, but it does describe a region of the Midwest/Northeast that shares similar socio-economic characteristics. That poster probably wanted to avoid the whole "is Pittsburgh Northeastern/Midwestern/Appalachian?" debate.
For the record, Pittsburgh is technically Northeastern (and Appalachian more than anything), but the fact that Cleveland to Pittsburgh is around 135 minutes driving distance, and that they share many similarities makes for an apt comparison. Rustbelt may not be a geographical designation, but it can still be construed as a region for comparison's sake, just as that same poster used "Great Lakes" as a designation for Toronto and Chicago. We get what he means, and its appropriate in certain instances, Pittsburgh-Cleveland being one of them, especially since the OP never had a "geographical" region qualifier.
A bit nitpicky. You're right, but it does describe a region of the Midwest/Northeast that shares similar socio-economic characteristics. That poster probably wanted to avoid the whole "is Pittsburgh Northeastern/Midwestern/Appalachian?" debate.
For the record, Pittsburgh is technically Northeastern (and Appalachian more than anything), but the fact that Cleveland to Pittsburgh is around 135 minutes driving distance, and that they share many similarities makes for an apt comparison. Rustbelt may not be a geographical designation, but it can still be construed as a region for comparison's sake, just as that same poster used "Great Lakes" as a designation for Toronto and Chicago. We get what he means, and its appropriate in certain instances, Pittsburgh-Cleveland being one of them, especially since the OP never had a "geographical" region qualifier.
Do you feel that Pittsburgh and Cleveland are in the same region? What about Chicago and Toronto?
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Do you feel that Pittsburgh and Cleveland are in the same region? What about Chicago and Toronto?
On a purely technical level, no--Pittsburgh is Northeastern/Appalachian, while Cleveland is Midwestern. However, both cities are transitory places that lie on the periphery of their respective regions, and share a lot of common characteristics, being only 2+hours from each other. In real world terms, they are very much integrating as one region, spurred by business. Here's a link from a 5 year-old article about "Cleveburgh"--I can only imagine that the bonds have grown even closer.
Additionally, I feel that the Rustbelt is a much smaller geographical "region" than something like the Sunbelt, and is much more specific in its criteria for inclusion. The Great Lakes "region" is broader than the "Rustbelt" (and overlaps with much of it), but smaller than the aforementioned Sunbelt. So it's more of a stretch to compare Chicago and Toronto on purely geographic proximity terms, but much less of a stretch, than say, a Sunbelt comparison between Atlanta and Phoenix. It's all about degrees, if you ask me.
Metro population:
Indy metro area- 1,971,274 people in 5,940.73 sq miles
Columbus metro area- 1,967,066 in 3,169.2 sq mi sq miles
City Population:
Indianapolis City population- 853,173 in 365.1 sq mi
Columbus city population-850,106 in in 217.17 sq mi
Gross Metro Product:
Columbus-$111.7 B
Indianapolis-$ $111.3 B
Fortunate 1000 Companies by Urban area
Columbus- 14
Indianapolis-9
Metro area Unemployment
Columbus-4.1%
Indianapolis-5.4%
Very comparable cities. Both heading in pretty good directions.
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