Help me find a city to move to! (homes, neighborhoods)

[1234567891011]

These are the things I'm looking for in the city:

- Cold weather. Cool summers (under 80s) and snowy/pretty cold for the rest of the year

- Gritty/old architecture and an overall gritty city

- Diverse, but not segregated

- I don't like suburbs, so I'd prefer a city with mostly the kind of areas that I mentioned above

- Urban areas

- Nightlife

- 200k or more people in the city proper

Thanks for the help guys.

[kyle19125]

Sounds like Buffalo NY to me.

[ckhthankgod]

I'd also say that parts of Rochester NY may work and I would look particularly in its NE Quadrant/side in neighborhoods like these: https://rocwiki.org/Homestead_Heights

https://rocwiki.org/North_Winton_Vil...er-Winton-Main (a hot neighborhood now according to a personal resource)

https://rocwiki.org/Beechwood

In the SE Quadrant, I'd say that these neighborhoods would work: https://rocwiki.org/Monroe_Village

https://rocwiki.org/South_Wedge (has been mentioned as fastest growing urban neighborhood outside of NYC in the state in terms of redevelopment)

Other neighborhoods that may also work in at least parts: https://rocwiki.org/19th_Ward (same source stated that parts of this neighborhood are pretty popular as well)

https://rocwiki.org/Maplewood

In terms of Buffalo, I'd look along(including some areas just to the east) to west of Main Street all the way over to/through the West Side. I'd say that the (Near) West Side is one of the most diverse neighborhoods in NY State outside of NYC and it is near neighborhoods like Allentown, Elmwood Village and Chippewa Street.

[FrankInPhilly]

Buffalo, Cleveland.
Maybe Detroit, Milwaukee (don't know how they'd fare on diverse/not segregated)

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by FrankInPhilly

Buffalo, Cleveland.
Maybe Detroit, Milwaukee (don't know how they'd fare on diverse/not segregated)

For Detroit, I'd say that parts of SW Detroit would work. It is where the cities Hispanic/Latino community is concentrated, along with a substantial working class White and of course a high Black percentage. Its Warrendale neighborhood is another one in the city that comes to mind and it has a relatively high Arab population on the city's west side. Corktown is another one. There's also Hamtramck, while it's own city surrounded by Detroit, it is very diverse.

[1234567891011]

I mean, it doesn't have to be THAT diverse. The most important thing to me is cold weather, gritty, urban, and over 200k people

[gentlearts]

I've not been to Minneapolis, but I've heard that it's a vibrant area that younger people love. Very diverse and lots to see and do.

[ckhthankgod]

Originally Posted by 1234567891011

I mean, it doesn't have to be THAT diverse. The most important thing to me is cold weather, gritty, urban, and over 200k people

Pretty much any city that fits your criteria is going to be quite diverse actually. Madison WI is probably the only city that fits or comes close to the criteria and isn't "THAT" diverse.

St. Paul MN, Toledo OH and maybe Grand Rapids MI(now) are some others that come to mind. These and the other cities can get above 80 occasionally as well.

[projectmaximus]

I feel like any of the big cities up north really. Detroit, Buffalo, Cleveland are among those that fit that overall suggest the most "gritty" feel. Toledo, Akron, Duluth, Grand Rapids, and Rochester for smaller metros, though I admit I have not been to any of those smaller ones.

[1234567891011]

Originally Posted by gentlearts

I've not been to Minneapolis, but I've heard that it's a vibrant area that younger people love. Very diverse and lots to see and do.

Is minneapolis gritty though? I've heard its really clean.