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I am the type of person that likes nice clean cities full of beautiful greenery. I do believe that everyone is entitled to their opinion, but why would you seek filthy, graffiti sprayed crumbling neighborhoods absent of ANY form of green growing things? This may sound snarky, I don't mean it to be, but please explain to me the appeal of grit!
If you want nice clean cities full of beautiful greenery, then you'd love Singapore, my friend.
It is known as the Garden City. Go on Google Streetview and tour around Singapore. Even the freeways there feature manicured landscaping. So much tropical landscaping, such well maintained, well planned neighborhoods, that it feels like you're driving on the roads surrounding Disney world.
Parks, biking trails, green roofs everywhere. Entire skyscrapers are being built with hanging gardens and green walls. Even the Singapore Changi Airport looks like a scene out of Eden.
That is my kind of city, too. I'll take Singapore anyday over the grit of SF. I know SF has parks and is just across the Golden Gate from. National Recreation Area, but it's not like Singapore, which is well planned, clean, and green all throughout the city.
I also love how green and clean the North Atlanta suburbs are. My hometown of Irvine is also a very affluent, well planned suburb with one third of the land area preserved as wilderness, with lots of mountain biking and hiking trails and lots of manicured landacaping, parks, and urban biking trails throughout, but alas, it's in an arid Mediterranean climate where the green season is short lived and happens in late winter and early spring.
In Dallas or Phoenix yes, but places like Boston or Philadelphia, no. That's where the character in suburbs really comes out.
Basically the Boston and Philly burbs are full of character cause they're old. Basically old neighborhoods are good and charming while new neighborhoods are sterile, bland, and soulless. Basically ANY neighborhood was considered soulless when it was new and when it ages it suddenly gets considered as a neighborhood with character.
Kind of like how the Eiffel Tower was considered a giant industrial metal monster and eyesore in its day but today it is classic and charming.
I feel like there a lot of grit in Milwaukee just based off demographics, crime, economy etc
But you keep showing me places that look VERY clean and gentrified. I’d rather just see regular Milwaukeee neighborhoods. The ones you show me- they have classical architecture but aren’t gritty at all. At least not to someone from the northeast such as myself.
Even in Boston those areas would be consider extremely upscale. Let alone NYC Philly or Bmore. just my opinion though
I feel like there a lot of grit in Milwaukee just based off demographics, crime, economy etc
But you keep showing me places that look VERY clean and gentrified. I’d rather just see regular Milwaukeee neighborhoods. The ones you show me- they have classical architecture but aren’t gritty at all. At least not to someone from the northeast such as myself.
Even in Boston those areas would be consider extremely upscale. Let alone NYC Philly or Bmore. just my opinion though
Of course there are bad neighborhoods in Milwaukee...as there are in any city of size. The "bad" are not bad, though, compared to a lot of cities. I thought we were talking more "urban" here, than residential.
To me, the street in Milwaukee that I most don't like to drive down. There are others, of course, but this one I don't like. There is the museum on the corner, that is quite well known, but otherwise, I avoid this area.
Suburbanite here. I love old, repurposed buildings. Historic. Unique architecture. But I hate grime, trash, busted windows, crap on streets/sidewalks, weeds/unkept areas, non-artistic graffiti (ie gang tagging, defacing), etc. I find absolutely no "character" in any of that. I live in suburban Charlotte and love how clean the city is, even its uptown area; especially for a city its size. I've also found Orlando, Tampa, Dallas, Denver, and Salt Lake City to be clean as well. There's a peacefulness and relaxing aura in that to me. But some would find that "boring", and that's fine. I just don't find grit "interesting". This is just my own preference. I'm totally to each his own and respect that.
High end->modern->traditional/old->gritty->run down->blighted ?
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