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Old 12-21-2017, 05:57 PM
 
Location: Florida
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Ahh, right right! Good point. Well, in that case, Puerto Rico's numbers will drop even more drastically in the upcoming years, I bet.

The island of Puerto Rico cannot sustain 3 million plus people technically, anyhow. So as sad as it is with all the people being forced out, it will probably ultimately be better for the 2 million + people who remain in the upcoming decades.
Puerto Rico lost around 320,000 residents between 2010 to 2016. Since the hurricanes it has lost over 200,000 residents who have arrived in Florida.

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...-maria-n825111

Puerto Rico's loss appears to be Florida's gain for now.
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Old 12-21-2017, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Pittsburgh, PA (Morningside)
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Connecticut grew for once? I don't believe this. It's only estimates but there's no way that it grew. We have been declining every year for the past 4 years. If it didn't end up growing, it must be because of Puerto Rican's moving up here.
IIRC, every state in the Northeast except for Delaware (and DC, though it's not a state) has a net outflow of residents. It's just international immigration that keeps some of them in the black.

The same is largely true for the Midwest as well.
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Old 12-21-2017, 08:32 PM
 
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There are over 1.1 million people living in Central Illinois between the metros of Peoria, Springfield, Bloomington, Decatur, and Champaign. The farthest distance between two of the cities(Peoria to Champaign) is still less than 100 miles, and all 5 are connected via expressways 1-74, I-55, and I-72. I feel as though there would have something like Upstate NY if these metros were to merge, or at least have Bloomington-Normal metro merge with the larger Peoria to boost it to almost 600,000. Peoria should have been developed to a somewhat major city akin to Buffalo if not bigger, but the population had stagnated at 100k+ for nearly a century in its city limits and was eventually surpassed by Phoenix.
Not sure I get your point. During the past century Buffalo had a population of over 500,000 with another 100,000 in Niagara Falls just 15 miles up the river for several censuses in the mid 20th century. And that was just the city, while the counties which make up today's MSA were almost exclusively rural.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:13 AM
 
Location: St. Louis
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Chicago has always been the primate city of not just Illinois, but the entire Great Lakes region. "Downstate" has stayed rural farmland and small towns. New York State was lucky to have sizable cities in their Upstate region to balance out the City.
Illinois is odd in the sense that the second largest urban area in the state outside of Chicagoland are the Illinois suburbs of St. Louis (the Metro East). Like the rest of Illinois, however, they are struggling in addition to slowing metropolitan St. Louis' growth as a whole.

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That does make me feel better, thank you. BTW I completely agree about the level of dysfunction in Illinois.
Illinois needs to cut a severe number of its local governments. There's no reason why we should have more than any other state in the country.

As for our dysfunction though, expect next year to only highlight it more. We're about to have the most expensive gubernatorial election in United States history.
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Old 12-22-2017, 11:24 AM
 
Location: Brooklyn, NY
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Puerto Rico lost around 320,000 residents between 2010 to 2016. Since the hurricanes it has lost over 200,000 residents who have arrived in Florida.

Link: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/...-maria-n825111

Puerto Rico's loss appears to be Florida's gain for now.
I wonder how many more people Puerto Rico will lose in the next couple of years? This kind of population drain can't be good on either side--flooding in of people from PR to FL and PR losing so many at once...hmm, I hope they all can land on their feet.
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Old 12-22-2017, 01:58 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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Not sure I get your point. During the past century Buffalo had a population of over 500,000 with another 100,000 in Niagara Falls just 15 miles up the river for several censuses in the mid 20th century. And that was just the city, while the counties which make up today's MSA were almost exclusively rural.
In 1950 greater Buffalo was bigger than greater Toronto. That was when "Boronto" ,as Montrealers called it, was a horrid conservative little backwater and Torontonians use to go to Buffalo for a good time.
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Old 12-22-2017, 09:12 PM
 
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In 1950 greater Buffalo was bigger than greater Toronto. That was when "Boronto" ,as Montrealers called it, was a horrid conservative little backwater and Torontonians use to go to Buffalo for a good time.
Those were the days
Really hoping with New York's numbers revised up, there was a lesser loss upstate.
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Old 12-23-2017, 01:59 PM
 
Location: Texas
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Growth is slowing drastically in Texas. I hope it is not the beginning of the end.
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Old 12-23-2017, 03:31 PM
 
Location: Florida
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I wonder how many more people Puerto Rico will lose in the next couple of years? This kind of population drain can't be good on either side--flooding in of people from PR to FL and PR losing so many at once...hmm, I hope they all can land on their feet.
Not to mention the political implications for Florida as well.
Most Puerto Ricans vote Democrat.
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Old 12-23-2017, 06:11 PM
 
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Not sure I get your point. During the past century Buffalo had a population of over 500,000 with another 100,000 in Niagara Falls just 15 miles up the river for several censuses in the mid 20th century. And that was just the city, while the counties which make up today's MSA were almost exclusively rural.
Not only that but Buffalo was genuinely important between 1825-1955 as a port town connecting the Great Lakes to The East coast.

Peoria was never that significant. There is no good reason that peoria should have been as big as Buffalo historically.
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