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I think Philadelphia is the darkhorse candidate here, in all honesty. It's a place that will always be underrated or the underdog, which I am sure they prefer, because they're used to it.
I can't imagine a Super Bowl win and Amazon for Philadelphia in 2018, but I really wonder what people would think if that happens. It's one of my favorite cities, so good for them.
They should invite Elton John to do the halftime show with special rendition of Philadelphia Freedom.
I love these underhand pot shots at Philadelphia, that make no sense whatsoever. I'm not even from there, but it's one of my favorite metros in the country, and this is just total bull****.
Philadelphia isn't a "cool city"? Since when? I'm a millennial. I go there a lot. I know a ton of other people that do as well. It's got a ton going on there and millennials are one of the biggest reasons why.
Certainly take it over yuppie strongholds down in Washington, or up in Boston, that's for sure.
No idea why I continue to go on this site.
Get out of your feelings. I'm a fan of Philly and am a former resident of the metro area but it doesn't have the draw for millenials like Boston, NYC, DC, SF, etc. do and that's just the truth. And honestly, that's a good thing because it has kept the city relatively affordable.
I love these underhand pot shots at Philadelphia, that make no sense whatsoever. I'm not even from there, but it's one of my favorite metros in the country, and this is just total bull****.
Philadelphia isn't a "cool city"? Since when? I'm a millennial. I go there a lot. I know a ton of other people that do as well. It's got a ton going on there and millennials are one of the biggest reasons why.
Certainly take it over yuppie strongholds down in Washington, or up in Boston, that's for sure.
No idea why I continue to go on this site.
Philly has had one of the largest increases of millennials over the past decade.
It's one of the largest cities and metro areas in the country. It checks off every box in the Amazon RFP and then some, yet everyone poo-poos it and bends over backwards to talk up places like Pittsburgh and Nashville and Indianapolis. Like, wtf? lol
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I think Philadelphia is the darkhorse candidate here, in all honesty. It's a place that will always be underrated or the underdog, which I am sure they prefer, because they're used to it.
I can't imagine a Super Bowl win and Amazon for Philadelphia in 2018, but I really wonder what people would think if that happens. It's one of my favorite cities, so good for them.
I don't even think of it as a darkhorse. I think its qualifications as a candidate are pretty evident to most outsiders.
That's the most ridiculous thing I have read on here.
It's like saying "Chicago just doesn't have the cold that Minneapolis does."
Come on. You act like there is such a massive difference here. All I see are millennials and yuppies in Philadelphia. It's a top city for education, finance, etc. Its part of the Northeast megalopolis.
Baltimore is part of the Northeast megalopolis as well so I'm not sure why you made the extra effort to even embolden that.
Look, I'm well aware of what Philly offers and you act as though I'm arguing that it doesn't draw any millenials at all.
But nevermind, you're clearly too emotional about this issue for whatever reason and you don't even live there. The fact that you came out of the gate with your claws out when I was complimentary of the city and actually like the city, lived in the metro area, and wouldn't mind going back to live, says it all.
Have fun tearing up everyone's perspectives that don't line up 100% with yours.
And I always find it interesting when "newbies" act like this.
Even though I live in the DC area, I'm secretly pulling for Philly. Like others have stated it is one of the most undervalued large metropolitan areas in the country.
It has a lot to offer including a good airport, great universities, an excellent public transportation network (heavy rail, streetcar, and commuter rail network), good arts scene, decent nightlife, and still affordable. This is why a lot of millenials are moving to Philly from more expensive cities.
It has the best location being in the middle of the Northeast Megalopolis. In addition to the 6 million people living in the area now, within a few years when the Northeast maglev or hyperloop is built Amazon could have access to more talent from both DC and NYC.
So, I wonder about the relevance of another thread and its in-migration figures for various cities when overlaid against the top 20 list for Amazon and what that means for their ability to attract people and the value Amazon may place on that. (Ive bolded overlapping cities.)//www.city-data.com/forum/city-...different.html
Moved From Different State
1. New York: 263,009 people
2. Washington DC: 241,303 people
3. Atlanta: 178,880 people
4. Phoenix: 175,313 people
5. Chicago: 161,627 people
6. Dallas: 147,230 people
7. Philadelphia: 140,036 people
8. Los Angeles: 139,629 people
9. Seattle: 135,206 people
10. Boston: 122,150 people
11. Houston: 117,753 people
12. Miami: 102,740 people
13. Denver: 99,713 people
14. Charlotte: 98,449 people
15. Tampa: 94,330 people
16. Portland: 90,926 people
17. Las Vegas: 90,553 people
18. Virginia Beach: 75,751 people
19. Minneapolis: 75,635 people
20. San Francisco: 74,715 people
Moved From Abroad
1. New York: 186,149 people
2. Miami: 116,278 people
3. Los Angeles: 109,776 people
4. Houston: 81,748 people
5. Washington DC: 81,330 people
6. Boston: 60,427 people
7. San Francisco: 59,614 people
8. Dallas: 59,540 people
9. Chicago: 54,504 people
10. Atlanta: 50,703 people
11. Seattle: 43,913 people
12. San Diego: 39,641 people
13. San Jose: 38,968 people
14. Philadelphia: 38,360 people
15. Phoenix: 31,948 people
16. Orlando: 29,130 people
17. Detroit: 27,943 people
18. Minneapolis: 22,389 people
19. Tampa: 21,801 people
20. Riverside, CA: 20,578 people
Get out of your feelings. I'm a fan of Philly and am a former resident of the metro area but it doesn't have the draw for millenials like Boston, NYC, DC, SF, etc. do and that's just the truth. And honestly, that's a good thing because it has kept the city relatively affordable.
Looking at the subset of college-educated millennials (which is of course the prime workforce subset that Amazon will be targeting), out of curiosity I've actually pulled the data from the American Community Survey for metro areas between 2010-2016, and the results are pretty interesting. Here are the Top 10 metro gainers of people between the ages of 25-34 with at least a BA:
New York (+220,284)
Los Angeles (+157,419)
San Francisco (+110,157)
Houston (+89,200)
Seattle (+87,068)
Dallas (+84,595)
DC (+77,800)
Philadelphia (+73,870)
Boston (+72,243)
Chicago (+64,452)
So you're partially right that NYC and SF (along with LA) are pre-eminent educated millennial magnets that are in their own tier, but I don't think many folks realize the extent to which Philly has become a talent magnet over the past 10 years or so (due in no small part to its incredible value/affordability as an East Coast hub and economic vibrancy that improves each year).
At least in terms of attracting/retaining young talent, Philly is now absolutely in the same league as Boston, DC, Chicago, and Dallas.
Philadelphia is literally in the middle of the Northeast megalopolis, and the most affordable.
Talk about drawing human capital. Kenney said Goldilocks zone? No city has a better location.
Kinda, sorta, maybe. If you are talking about from DC to NYC, then Philly is "sort of" in the middle, but if you are going from DC to Boston (straight line), which is ~400 miles, then the middle is somewhere near Newark/NYC. Boston definitely shifts where the middle of the megalopolis is.
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