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But you have to wonder how many of those other categories are influenced by Pot. Like motor vehicle crashes, Suicide, accidental firearm, etc....
Umm maybe motor vehicle crashes, rarely, but accidental firearms, its not uncontrollable, and suicide is not stemmed from marijuana use. Remember that marijuana is a very tame "drug".
Is that why a 20 year old man was just sentenced to life without parole for the murder of somebody in this area? The motive... he wanted some MJ and didn't have any money, so he robbed and killed his dealer for a bag. Sounds pretty tame and under control to me. http://www.ludingtondailynews.com/ne...story_id=41384
Is that why a 20 year old man was just sentenced to life without parole for the murder of somebody in this area? The motive... he wanted some MJ and didn't have any money, so he robbed and killed his dealer for a bag. Sounds pretty tame and under control to me. Ludington Daily News - News
and people get robbed and killed over cars, money, watches, jewelery, etc... so maybe we should make those things illegal too. You anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything....
and people get robbed and killed over cars, money, watches, jewelery, etc... so maybe we should make those things illegal too. You anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything....
Yes it does actually. If he didn't want the MJ he wouldn't have set out to rob the guy that had it. Making it legal wouldn't have put any more money in the guys pocket to buy the bag. They didn't take his money, just the pot. Now don't get me wrong here. I couldn't really give a rats arse if somebody wants to sit around and fire a bowl or roll a fatty in the evening. I have friends who do all the time. I chose no too, if you do; fine. I'm not stating my position one way or the other, you are trying to read into my posts on the subject and come to the conclusion I am dead set against it. I simply said that while some states have very lax laws concerning pot, you still have to watch out for the Federal laws that are also in place for the entire Country. Then questioned the numbers as maybe trying to shed a positive spin without looking at all aspects of the numbers given. (yes I know how statistics work and that is a shining example of spinning them to prove a particular position.) Last post was simply a question that if it is so tame the urges are controllable then why in this one little town there have been four people tried, convicted, and sentenced for not being able to keep it under control? Two to life without parole.
My position is one that while I don't smoke, I don't really care if you or anybody else does.
Is that why a 20 year old man was just sentenced to life without parole for the murder of somebody in this area? The motive... he wanted some MJ and didn't have any money, so he robbed and killed his dealer for a bag. Sounds pretty tame and under control to me. Ludington Daily News - News
That just proves my point. If it was legal, he would've bought it from a normal drug store instead of the black market. See, making drugs like this illegal just creates problems. Anyway the last post i was talking about its effects.
Yes it does actually. If he didn't want the MJ he wouldn't have set out to rob the guy that had it. Making it legal wouldn't have put any more money in the guys pocket to buy the bag. They didn't take his money, just the pot. Now don't get me wrong here. I couldn't really give a rats arse if somebody wants to sit around and fire a bowl or roll a fatty in the evening. I have friends who do all the time. I chose no too, if you do; fine. I'm not stating my position one way or the other, you are trying to read into my posts on the subject and come to the conclusion I am dead set against it. I simply said that while some states have very lax laws concerning pot, you still have to watch out for the Federal laws that are also in place for the entire Country. Then questioned the numbers as maybe trying to shed a positive spin without looking at all aspects of the numbers given. (yes I know how statistics work and that is a shining example of spinning them to prove a particular position.) Last post was simply a question that if it is so tame the urges are controllable then why in this one little town there have been four people tried, convicted, and sentenced for not being able to keep it under control? Two to life without parole.
My position is one that while I don't smoke, I don't really care if you or anybody else does.
Also, it doesn't say he was shot because he didn't give them the bag but: "Although Latimer was not the trigger-man in the death, he was guilty of murder because he put into motion a chain of events that led to the shooting, Sniegowski said during the trial."
Also, it doesn't say he was shot because he didn't give them the bag but: "Although Latimer was not the trigger-man in the death, he was guilty of murder because he put into motion a chain of events that led to the shooting, Sniegowski said during the trial."
This happened just a few miles away from where I live so I have been following the story sense it happened. Like I said, even if it were legal, Latimer wouldn't have had the money to buy it. So the same outcome still would have happened.
And the entire section you pulled that quote from actually reads like this.
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Barnard was shot Nov. 29, 2007, when Latimer and his three co-defendants attempted to rob him of marijuana. Although Latimer was not the trigger-man in the death, he was guilty of murder because he put into motion a chain of events that led to the shooting, Sniegowski said during the trial.
That makes it very clear why they were there to rob him. It was strictly for the pot. That came out in the trial. I don't have the court minutes or whatever you call them, but if you are that interested, contact the Mason County Michigan Courthouse and request a copy of the court proceedings.
This happened just a few miles away from where I live so I have been following the story sense it happened. Like I said, even if it were legal, Latimer wouldn't have had the money to buy it. So the same outcome still would have happened.
And the entire section you pulled that quote from actually reads like this.
That makes it very clear why they were there to rob him. It was strictly for the pot. That came out in the trial. I don't have the court minutes or whatever you call them, but if you are that interested, contact the Mason County Michigan Courthouse and request a copy of the court proceedings.
Well then maybe Michigan should keep it Illegal cuz in California it's so plentiful nobody fights over it.
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. You anecdotal evidence doesn't prove anything....
