American Boom towns as viewed in 2011 (how much, universities, airport)

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by RaineyTodd

In what world is Columbus growing faster than Austin? City proper? Metrowise Columbus is not outpacing many western and southern cities.

lol it's not. Columbus is nowhere near top 5 fastest growing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tistical_areas

Columbus is growing just over 9%. Austin is 23%!! That link I posted is nice because it's sourced directly from the census and if you click the % change button it ranks cities by MSA growth % this decade.

[odurandina]

That list clearly missed most of the BIG boom towns.

SOME of them had already shown strong indications of they would BOOM after the Great Recession.....

For many apparently, that wasn't good enough to rank high on the list.

Did you see where it had San Jose and Boston?


That list really missed the mark.... Failed really, truly badly.

[grega94]

Fastest growing metros with over 1 million population (2010-2017)

1. Austin: +23.28%
2. Raleigh: +18.10%
3. Orlando: +17.59%
4. Houston: +16.42%
5. San Antonio: +15.47%
6. Dallas: +15.15%
7. Charlotte: +13.91%
8. Nashville: +13.89%
9. Denver: +13.55%
10. Phoenix: +12.98%
11. Las Vegas: +12.96%
12. Seattle: +12.42%
13. Jacksonville: +11.84%
14. Atlanta: +11.31%
15. Tampa: +11.07%
16. Miami: +10.68%
17. Salt Lake City: +10.59%
18. Oklahoma City: +10.44%
19. Washington: +10.30%
20. Portland: +10.20%
21. Columbus: +9.29%
22. San Francisco: +9.04%
23. San Jose: +8.79%
24. Riverside: +8.42%
25. Sacramento: +8.18%
26. San Diego: +7.83%
27. Minneapolis: +7.52%
28. Indianapolis: +7.45%
29. New Orleans: +7.22%
30. Richmond: +7.13%
31. Grand Rapids:+7.10%
32. Boston: +6.24%
33. Kansas City: +5.95%
34. Louisville: +4.71%
35. Tucson: +4.34%
36. Los Angeles: +4.09%
37. New York: +3.85%
38. Baltimore: +3.60%
39. Cincinnati: +3.05%
40. Virginia Beach: +2.89%
41. Philadelphia: +2.19%
42. Birmingham: +1.93%
43. Memphis: +1.77%
44. Milwaukee: +1.31%
45. Providence: +1.27%
46. Chicago: +0.76%
47. St. Louis: +0.70%
48. Detroit: +0.39%
49. Buffalo: +0.12%
50. Rochester: −0.16%
51. Hartford: −0.18%
52. Cleveland: −0.89%
53. Pittsburgh: −0.97%

Forbs List
1. Austin, TX
2. Raleigh, NC
3. Nashville, TN
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Houston, TX
6. Washington, DC-VA-MD-WV
7. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
8. Charlotte, NC-SC
8. Phoenix, AZ
10. Orlando, FL
11. Indianapolis, IN
12. Salt Lake City, UT
13. Columbus, OH
14. Jacksonville, FL
15. Atlanta, GA
16. Las Vegas, NV
16. Riverside, CA
18. Portland, OR-WA
19. Denver, CO
20. Oklahoma City, OK
21. Baltimore, MD
22. Louisville, KY-IN
22. Richmond, VA
24. Seattle, WA
25. Kansas City, MO-KS
26. San Diego, CA
27. Miami, FL
28. Tampa, FL
29. Sacramento, CA
30. Birmingham, AL
31. New Orleans, LA
32. Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD
33. Minneapolis, MN-WI
34. St. Louis, MO-IL
35. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN
35. New York, NY-NJ-PA
37. Boston, MA-NH
38. Memphis, TN-MS-AR
39. Pittsburgh, PA
40. Virginia Beach, VA-NC
41. Rochester, NY
42. Buffalo, NY
42. San Francisco, CA
44. Hartford, CT
45. Milwaukee, WI
45. San Jose, CA
47. Chicago, IL-IN-WI
47. Los Angeles, CA
49. Providence, RI-MA
50. Detroit, MI
51. Cleveland, OH

[grega94]

Originally Posted by RaineyTodd

The top 20 metro areas with the most growth are western and southern cities.

Well western minus California.

[rnc2mbfl]

Originally Posted by grega94

Fastest growing metros with over 1 million population (2010-2017)

1. Austin: +23.28%
2. Raleigh: +18.10%
3. Orlando: +17.59%
4. Houston: +16.42%
5. San Antonio: +15.47%
6. Dallas: +15.15%
7. Charlotte: +13.91%
8. Nashville: +13.89%
9. Denver: +13.55%
10. Phoenix: +12.98%
11. Las Vegas: +12.96%
12. Seattle: +12.42%
13. Jacksonville: +11.84%
14. Atlanta: +11.31%
15. Tampa: +11.07%
16. Miami: +10.68%
17. Salt Lake City: +10.59%
18. Oklahoma City: +10.44%
19. Washington: +10.30%
20. Portland: +10.20%
21. Columbus: +9.29%
22. San Francisco: +9.04%
23. San Jose: +8.79%
24. Riverside: +8.42%
25. Sacramento: +8.18%
26. San Diego: +7.83%
27. Minneapolis: +7.52%
28. Indianapolis: +7.45%
29. New Orleans: +7.22%
30. Richmond: +7.13%
31. Grand Rapids:+7.10%
32. Boston: +6.24%
33. Kansas City: +5.95%
34. Louisville: +4.71%
35. Tucson: +4.34%
36. Los Angeles: +4.09%
37. New York: +3.85%
38. Baltimore: +3.60%
39. Cincinnati: +3.05%
40. Virginia Beach: +2.89%
41. Philadelphia: +2.19%
42. Birmingham: +1.93%
43. Memphis: +1.77%
44. Milwaukee: +1.31%
45. Providence: +1.27%
46. Chicago: +0.76%
47. St. Louis: +0.70%
48. Detroit: +0.39%
49. Buffalo: +0.12%
50. Rochester: −0.16%
51. Hartford: −0.18%
52. Cleveland: −0.89%
53. Pittsburgh: −0.97%

Forbs List
1. Austin, TX
2. Raleigh, NC
3. Nashville, TN
4. San Antonio, TX
5. Houston, TX
6. Washington, DC-VA-MD-WV
7. Dallas-Fort Worth, TX
8. Charlotte, NC-SC
8. Phoenix, AZ
10. Orlando, FL
11. Indianapolis, IN
12. Salt Lake City, UT
13. Columbus, OH
14. Jacksonville, FL
15. Atlanta, GA
16. Las Vegas, NV
16. Riverside, CA
18. Portland, OR-WA
19. Denver, CO
20. Oklahoma City, OK
21. Baltimore, MD
22. Louisville, KY-IN
22. Richmond, VA
24. Seattle, WA
25. Kansas City, MO-KS
26. San Diego, CA
27. Miami, FL
28. Tampa, FL
29. Sacramento, CA
30. Birmingham, AL
31. New Orleans, LA
32. Philadelphia, PA-NJ-DE-MD
33. Minneapolis, MN-WI
34. St. Louis, MO-IL
35. Cincinnati, OH-KY-IN
35. New York, NY-NJ-PA
37. Boston, MA-NH
38. Memphis, TN-MS-AR
39. Pittsburgh, PA
40. Virginia Beach, VA-NC
41. Rochester, NY
42. Buffalo, NY
42. San Francisco, CA
44. Hartford, CT
45. Milwaukee, WI
45. San Jose, CA
47. Chicago, IL-IN-WI
47. Los Angeles, CA
49. Providence, RI-MA
50. Detroit, MI
51. Cleveland, OH

So, Forbes got 9 out of the top 10 fastest growing Metros over 1M, including the correct order of the top 2. It only missed Denver. They put in WDC in the top 10 instead. Ironically, WDC is 19th in growth rate while Forbes predicted Denver to be 19th.

[odurandina]

oh; population (yuck). i was thinking it was talking the unimportant stuff like business activity, real estate values, M's sq ft of offices added, rates per sq ft, etc....

[Peter1948]

Originally Posted by odurandina

oh; population (yuck). i was thinking it was talking the unimportant stuff like business activity, real estate values, M's sq ft of offices added, rates per sq ft, etc....

Well, that too. I think the lists go hand in hand. Forbes list is pretty darn accurate IMO! The top cities are the cities of the future. Cities in the 20-40 ranking range still have some work to do, and could go either way.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by DavePa

I'm sure one C-D poster will be appalled with one cities rank here in 2011 by prospects in growth in a tie with Milwaukee.... Maybe Angelinos might disagree with its tie with Chicago too.

45 Milwaukee, WI
45 San Jose, CA
47 Chicago, IL-IN-WI
47 Los Angeles, CA

Most Northern cities are not going to be booming overall in population. Retirements to warmer weather states and Corporate America still steering more growth to lower tax states with most incentives for them given there. Sunbelt states have far less retiring folk moving North.

We are still in this pattern of movement of Northern Americans South and West. That reminds the same since 2012. It reasons though.... that eventually this wave still heading South will even out and cost and rising taxes will too continue in the sunbelt.

Was a time the Great migration North was in full swing in the Nation. Corporate America also steered that even more so then .... as average Southern Americans did not relocate North for the weather. Jobs were the whole reason then.

As recently as 2016, the Midwest had net domestic migration from the South. I haven't seen 2017 numbers yet.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by RaineyTodd

In what world is Columbus growing faster than Austin? City proper? Metrowise Columbus is not outpacing many western and southern cities.

In city proper, Columbus grew by a few thousand more than Austin last year, despite Austin having much larger city limits. Austin metro is growing faster than Columbus. So basically, people move to the city in Columbus and the suburbs in Austin.


Columbus' metro growth is comparable to its South and West peer group. Slower than Austin and Charlotte, but faster than Portland, Sacramento, Jacksonville, Raleigh, San Jose, etc.

[jbcmh81]

Originally Posted by Peter1948

lol it's not. Columbus is nowhere near top 5 fastest growing.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_o...tistical_areas

Columbus is growing just over 9%. Austin is 23%!! That link I posted is nice because it's sourced directly from the census and if you click the % change button it ranks cities by MSA growth % this decade.

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/pres...p=s1-subcounty


I was using city proper. It's the 8th fastest-growing city overall, and the 4th fastest-growing major city by the standard that actually matters- total growth. I don't bother with percent growth because it can be easily skewed towards small towns/cities, but otherwise have low total growth. Austin's metro growth is obviously higher, but I'm not that interested in using far-flung suburbs as representative of the core city.