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Texas and South Carolina are different but whether people like it or not they are both in the south.
Aside from that the Midwest/northeast are not that different from each other. Only at the extreme ends are they THAT different.
I feel like this is mostly due to when the terms were created. Or at least how we look at the regions today. The Northeast simply is in the northeast. The Midwest was named after the Old Northwest Territories (OH, MI, IN, IL, WI. Which is what I think of when I hear "Midwest"). The South is typically referring to Confederate states.
I recognize no one here needs a history lesson on the regional terms. I just wanted to point out that the reason we lump Texas and South Carolina in together is because "The South" has become the term for the original states of the confederacy. So grouping the Midwest and New England together just because they're in the north is not the same thing. They were already distinct regions and continue to be so. If you want to argue splitting The South up into it's own distinct regions for modern times then have at it.
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I feel like this is mostly due to when the terms were created. Or at least how we look at the regions today. The Northeast simply is in the northeast. The Midwest was named after the Old Northwest Territories (OH, MI, IN, IL, WI. Which is what I think of when I hear "Midwest"). The South is typically referring to Confederate states.
I recognize no one here needs a history lesson on the regional terms. I just wanted to point out that the reason we lump Texas and South Carolina in together is because "The South" has become the term for the original states of the confederacy. So grouping the Midwest and New England together just because they're in the north is not the same thing. They were already distinct regions and continue to be so. If you want to argue splitting The South up into it's own distinct regions for modern times then have at it.
People have to stop assuming being part of one region means/requires that everybody from there is culturally monolithic.
The Midwest is... the north. It was settled by people from the... Northeastern US. The northeast is... the north. All states therein were in... the Union. The Union was... the north.
To people in the south a Minnesotan is a Yankee as much as a Vermonter is.
Case closed. The Midwest and the Northeast are the American north.
People have to stop assuming being part of one region means/requires that everybody from there is culturally monolithic.
The Midwest is... the north. It was settled by people from the... Northeastern US. The northeast is... the north. All states therein were in... the Union. The Union was... the north.
To people in the south a Minnesotan is a Yankee as much as a Vermonter is.
Case closed. The Midwest and the Northeast are the American north.
The Northeast is nothing like the Midwest. Just because they're northern doesn't mean theyre similar. And the Midwest was settled mainly by Germans and Scandinavians.
And Midwestern states like KS were a battleground for Union vs Confederacy, so there was strong influence from both sides there. The KS/MO border war over slavery expansion was quite vicious.
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The Northeast is nothing like the Midwest. Just because they're northern doesn't mean theyre similar. And the Midwest was settled mainly by Germans and Scandinavians.
And Midwestern states like KS were a battleground for Union vs Confederacy, so there was strong influence from both sides there. The KS/MO border war over slavery expansion was quite vicious.
You know what, you're right. They are NOTHING alike in ANY way shape or form. In fact, not a single person from PA, NY, NJ, or New England EVER settled in the lands to the west! It was all people who teleported from Germany and Scandinavia, not to mention all those Kentuckians!
Michigan doesn't have any towns named after NY locales because NY people never set foot there.
Also my bad, that hot tropical Midwestern climate is absolutely nothing like the colder Northeast. And man, how about all of those animals and plants out there! Woo! Not a single one also in the northeast.
In fact, I was traveling from Buffalo to Cleveland the other day, and as soon as I hit that Ohio border I felt as though I had been transported to another planet! OOOOOO It was SO different!
I don't know anyone whose family traces back to New England. Most people here are only a few generations removed from Europe. Wide swaths of the Midwest were settled directly by immigrants.
People have to stop assuming being part of one region means/requires that everybody from there is culturally monolithic.
The Midwest is... the north. It was settled by people from the... Northeastern US. The northeast is... the north. All states therein were in... the Union. The Union was... the north.
To people in the south a Minnesotan is a Yankee as much as a Vermonter is.
Case closed. The Midwest and the Northeast are the American north.
You're completely ignoring the entire point of my post. New England/The North East and the Midwest were dubbed as such BEFORE the Civil War. The south didn't have have strong a regional term until after the war. Hence, New England/The North East, The Midwest, and the South.
No one said The Midwest isn't physically in the north.
Why are you so intent on renaming a region you don't even live in?
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