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Population trends are pretty uneven across the US. Hopefully this crowding will influence people to consider the interior Northeast and upper Midwest which has many cities that were built to house many more people than are currently living in them. I would love to see Cleveland, Pittsburgh, Buffalo, Rochester, Detroit, St. Louis, etc. healthily reaching their previous peak populations and be bustling cities.
Hmm - if California is so great, why do people want to leave.
Signed, a liberal who does not like the California way of life.
I mean it's still the greatest state in the country by far, but even I realize there are 49 other states out there to explore it's not because the other states are any better it's just a change of scenery, and bringing some prosperity to some of those small interior western towns. Fun fact California still added 300,000 people in 2017, and that's with all the people "leaving" so the notion that there's a mass exodus that many people wish for is just not true.
I mean it's still the greatest state in the country by far, but even I realize there are 49 other states out there to explore it's not because the other states are any better it's just a change of scenery, and bringing some prosperity to some of those small interior western towns. Fun fact California still added 300,000 people in 2017, and that's with all the people "leaving" so the notion that there's a mass exodus that many people wish for is just not true.
I mean it's still the greatest state in the country by far, but even I realize there are 49 other states out there to explore it's not because the other states are any better it's just a change of scenery, and bringing some prosperity to some of those small interior western towns. Fun fact California still added 300,000 people in 2017, and that's with all the people "leaving" so the notion that there's a mass exodus that many people wish for is just not true.
That's your opinion, you can't speak for everyone living in California. There maybe people there who don't like living there for various reasons but can't afford to leave or their job is too good. Just I can't say that everybody lives in my city love my city or everybody that works at my job loves working there.
That's your opinion, you can't speak for everyone living in California. There maybe people there who don't like living there for various reasons but can't afford to leave or their job is too good. Just I can't say that everybody lives in my city love my city or everybody that works at my job loves working there.
The thing is I don't remember saying I was speaking for everyone I can only speak for myself, and population statistics.
No state gets the excitement and wonder factor around the World as California. Instant recognition. NYC surely can .... but not the state. Las Vegas might ..... but not Nevada. Few even know what state the Grand Canyon is in. But still instant recognition. Florida as a state is another ..... but not the same level. Texas can in the world ..... But with less interest that a California and even a Florida does.
That it never looses. Just IMO. So to the World. California IS our greatest state and of course by GDP.
No state gets the excitement and wonder factor around the World as California. Instant recognition. NYC surely can .... but not the state. Las Vegas might ..... but not Nevada. Few even know what state the Grand Canyon is in. But still instant recognition. Florida as a state is another ..... but not the same level. Texas can in the world ..... But with less interest that a California and even a Florida does.
That it never looses. Just IMO. So to the World. California IS our greatest state and of course by GDP.
The point I was trying to make as well as with my actual experiences. People don't move to California in droves because of COL, or public transit. People move here because California is California and really no state offers as much hence why COL is so high. I didnt even think about economic might, and a $2.7 trillion dollar economy larger than France and the UK both the 5th and 6th largest economies in the world. That's why it's nice to see Californian's spread that prosperity to other less prosperous states.
The point I was trying to make as well as with my actual experiences. People don't move to California in droves because of COL, or public transit. People move here because California is California and really no state offers as much hence why COL is so high. I didnt even think about economic might, and a $2.7 trillion dollar economy larger than France and the UK both the 5th and 6th largest economies in the world. That's why it's nice to see Californian's spread that prosperity to other less prosperous states.
I think it's fair to say California is our nation's greatest state in regards to GDP, influence, climate, geographical features, entertainment, diversity and probably a few other areas.
But it's also too expensive and overpriced. Debt-to-income's for a large portion are just astronomical. Entire families go homeless - or are pushed far out to dumpy little towns and spend 2-3 hours a day traveling to their jobs.
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