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Southeast. Better prospects for long term rather than that damp dog weather of the PNW.
Besides I can live near beaches that I would actually want to go to like Charleston, or the mountains of Asheville.
I would miss the beautiful nature areas of the PNW. Problem is that the only nice areas are on the coasts while the SE has the coasts to the mountains as getting better. Particularly in the cities which is where I would move to anyway.
The PNW has Portland and Seattle for its realistic contenders for where I would live. The southeast has
Sure I wouldn't live in all of them right now, but I can see them all getting better and their proximity only makes it a better location overall.
You shoulda included Huntsville in your post
I've always told people you have to THINK about what it would mean to live in the PNW. If you like gray skies, great. Research what living at "the 45th Parallel" is like. People tried to warn me but I didn't listen. The PNW is beautiful, but it isn't for everyone. Just like the South. It isn't for everyone either. Having lived in both places I'd choose the South (and I'm from California, born in Portland Oregon, visited Oregon many times in my youth and lived there for 7 years as an adult).
PNW all the way. The outdoor nature is vastly better, less buggy, less muggy and way more varied. Lots of snow activities in the winter too. If you’re an outdoorsy person, PNW is hard to beat.
People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings. Plus salaries in Seattle are substantially higher, no income taxes and more densely located job opportunities making job switches much easier.
PNW all the way. The outdoor nature is vastly better, less buggy, less muggy and way more varied. Lots of snow activities in the winter too. If you’re an outdoorsy person, PNW is hard to beat.
People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings. Plus salaries in Seattle are substantially higher, no income taxes and more densely located job opportunities making job switches much easier.
No, they don’t look at you like you’re an alien, and again, the whole church thing is being overblown by people who apparently don’t even live in the south.
Also, the south isn’t any more racist than any other part of the country. Race relations in the south were improving around the same time the PNW started to lose its reputation as a white-supremacist hotbed.
No need to make stuff up.
PNW all the way. The outdoor nature is vastly better, less buggy, less muggy and way more varied. Lots of snow activities in the winter too. If you’re an outdoorsy person, PNW is hard to beat.
People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings. Plus salaries in Seattle are substantially higher, no income taxes and more densely located job opportunities making job switches much easier.
PNW all the way. The outdoor nature is vastly better, less buggy, less muggy and way more varied. Lots of snow activities in the winter too. If you’re an outdoorsy person, PNW is hard to beat.
People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings. Plus salaries in Seattle are substantially higher, no income taxes and more densely located job opportunities making job switches much easier.
When I briefly worked in a grocery store recently, I saw tons of interracial couples, childless and with kids. I didn't see them being ostracized. It depends upon where you live. I don't live in what is considered the Deep South. It's a more cosmopolitan city and metro.
My city of Huntsville is growing like a weed, with a ton of transplants. There are lots of career and job opportunities here.
My main reason for not wanting to live in the PNW is the 45th Parallel and the gray skies. I had a bad case of seasonal affective disorder after few years of living there.
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PNW all the way. The outdoor nature is vastly better, less buggy, less muggy and way more varied. Lots of snow activities in the winter too. If you’re an outdoorsy person, PNW is hard to beat.
People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings. Plus salaries in Seattle are substantially higher, no income taxes and more densely located job opportunities making job switches much easier.
Do you really believe this? And how much of the South have you actually experienced? This all runs very counter to my observation on a recent visit to the Atlanta area in the city and the suburbs. Also having spent lots of time on multiple visits to the Raleigh area where my sister raised her kids, it feels as progressive as many other metro areas in the north or out west. I think what you may be implying is more of an urban/rural divide, which certainly isn't exclusive to the south. Except, I feel that they walk the walk in the south more than they do in the PNW with the narratives that are often pontificated from the PNW.
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People in the Southeast look at you like an alien if you tell them you don’t go to church when they nosily ask you what church you go to. Cost of living is much lower though but if you’re not white or a member of a church, prepare to be ostracized socially. It’s not worth the money savings.
There have been numerous threads on this forum discussing the best places for Blacks and other non-white populations, and Southern metros including Atlanta, Charlotte, Raleigh-Durham, Richmond and others are mentioned frequently for a variety of legitimate reasons. Judging from the number of people out shopping or exercising on Sunday mornings in this area and elsewhere, there is no shortage of folks who don't spend the traditional timeframe in church - and they often have active social lives as well. The reality of the Southeast in the 21st century is much more "normal" than many West Coast people would imagine.
Not a fan of the conservative culture in the southeast but I would live there over the PNW a thousand times over. The southeast has great weather and the people there are more normal. Lower COL is another huge advantage.
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