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Perhaps this would finally answer the age old city-data question/fight is Pittsburgh Northeast or Midwest.
The final answer is Pittsburgh is in the Northeast, not on the East Coast, near the border of the Midwest and has a cultural mix of both Northeast and Midwest. There. Done.
The final answer is Pittsburgh is in the Northeast, not on the East Coast, near the border of the Midwest and has a cultural mix of both Northeast and Midwest. There. Done.
But why? Like what would it gain? At least if the West Coast + Northeast + HI + IL seceded, it would be for the fact that they are far bluer and economically contribute more to the US economy than the rest of the country. At least if the South seceded (again), it would be to reinstate Jim Crow-style laws and return women and LGBT to second-class citizens and turn the region into the Wild West with gunfights all over again and become the Christian version of the Middle East under Christian theocracy. What would the Midwest gain?
The Great Lakes states (and Minnesota) joining Canada isn't a remote possibility. It would have been part of Ontario if it was still in British hands at the time of the Upper Canada/Lower Canada split in the early 19th-century. Illinois was the name of that region of Québec.
The Northeastern states from the Potomac to Maine could enter Canada at the same time with the Great Lakes states.
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At least if the South seceded (again), it would be to reinstate Jim Crow-style laws and return women and LGBT to second-class citizens and turn the region into the Wild West with gunfights all over again and become the Christian version of the Middle East under Christian theocracy. What would the Midwest gain?
Culturally they are similar than the future C.S.A. The United States was a convenient alliance between two culturally dissimilar peoples and nations that eventually will find its breaking point.
Lincoln killed the C.S.A. (for a time) but there is an increasing tide of creating more, smaller countries in the world right now.
Another vote for dumb here, should have been a poll option.
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Originally Posted by jessemh431
But why? Like what would it gain? At least if the West Coast + Northeast + HI + IL seceded, it would be for the fact that they are far bluer and economically contribute more to the US economy than the rest of the country. At least if the South seceded (again), it would be to reinstate Jim Crow-style laws and return women and LGBT to second-class citizens and turn the region into the Wild West with gunfights all over again and become the Christian version of the Middle East under Christian theocracy. What would the Midwest gain?
That doesn’t sound like the south is “gaining” anything under that scenario.
The Great Lakes states (and Minnesota) joining Canada isn't a remote possibility. It would have been part of Ontario if it was still in British hands at the time of the Upper Canada/Lower Canada split in the early 19th-century. Illinois was the name of that region of Québec.
The Northeastern states from the Potomac to Maine could enter Canada at the same time with the Great Lakes states.
Culturally they are similar than the future C.S.A. The United States was a convenient alliance between two culturally dissimilar peoples and nations that eventually will find its breaking point.
Lincoln killed the C.S.A. (for a time) but there is an increasing tide of creating more, smaller countries in the world right now.
There is nothing united about the United States. I believe it is completely possible that this country will break up at some point, maybe even sometime soon. The west coast, the Northeast and the South are all distinctly different in culture, values and politics. If we were one people at one time I am not convinced we are one people anymore. A split is very possible. Actually I believe the west coast is most likely to initiate secession this time, although we in the south are still very capable of it as well. The Midwest is probably more of the glue that is still holding us together, they would likely be the last to initiate a secessionist movement. When the time comes for them to take sides however they will have the toughest time. Like old Missouri of 1861 the Midwest, especially the upper Midwest (trumps Wisconsin and Michigan) will have a bloody internal struggle over what to do.
Only a blind fool does not see the dark clouds on this nations horizon. The desires of the politically correct socialists can not be reconciled with the desires of capitalist and Christian conservatives. The red state blue state divide looks like the political map of 1860. If the USA was a marriage then we are headed for divorce.
The grubby hands at the top aka 1% (modern slaveowners) would never allow any secession (why lose their milk cows??)
So, how's seceding part of the US is going to fight with the US, what weapons, army? Good luck...
Most modern Americans are too overweight for anything other than a car trip to a supermarket, much less some kind of war against modern army, drones and all.
This is not happening.
I rather see the US forming a union with Canada and the likes... and eventually some kind of world government.
The only part of the US that has a remote chance of becoming independent is Puerto Rico.
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