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Old 12-25-2020, 06:39 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Furthermore, by CSA, it becomes apparent that for all the talk of diversity, most of this country is White+Black, and there's nothing wrong with that btw.


CSAs by White & Black Population, 2019

Two Thirds(66%) or Higher
93.27% Pittsburgh-New Castle-Weirton
92.55% Birmingham-Hoover-Talladega
91.29% Dayton-Springfield-Kettering
91.27% Knoxville-Morristown-Sevierville
91.00% Cincinnati-Wilmington-Maysville
90.35% Cleveland-Akron-Canton
90.26% Louisville/Jefferson County-Elizabethtown-Bardstown
90.13% Memphis-Forrest City
91.56% St Louis-St Charles-Farmington
88.78% Buffalo-Cheektowaga-Olean
88.67% Columbus-Marion-Zanesville
88.47% Greenville-Spartanburg-Anderson
87.86% Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
87.41% Rochester-Batavia-Seneca Falls
87.40% Albany-Schenectady
87.14% Indianapolis-Carmel-Muncie
86.99% Chattanooga-Cleveland-Dalton
86.92% New Orleans-Metairie-Hammond
86.70% Harrisburg-York-Lebanon
86.61% Nashville-Davidson-Mufreesboro-Franklin
85.48% Grand Rapids-Kentwood-Muskogee
84.94% Virginia Beach-Norfolk
84.54% Kansas City-Overland Park-Kansas City
84.39% Greensboro-Winston-Salem-High Point
83.88% Minneapolis-St Paul
83.63% North Port-Sarasota
83.59% Jacksonville-St Marys-Palatka
83.16% Charlotte-Concord
83.14% Milwaukee-Racine
80.66% Raleigh-Durham-Cary
80.34% Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
79.85% Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
79.03% Boston-Worcester-Providence
77.58% Salt Lake City-Provo-Orem
76.93% Hartford-East Hartford
75.33% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
74.93% Portland-Vancouver-Salem
73.78% Oklahoma City-Shawnee
71.64% Tulsa-Muskogee-Bartlesville
71.01% Cape Coral-Fort Myers-Naples
69.59% Seattle-Tacoma
69.58% Denver-Aurora
69.08% Chicago-Naperville
66.70% Orlando-Lakeland-Deltona


50.00%-65.95%
62.92% New York-Newark
61.83% Dallas-Fort Worth
59.93% Phoenix-Mesa
58.54% Sacramento-Roseville
53.65% Las Vegas-Henderson
52.69% Tucson-Nogales
52.46% Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
52.37% Houston-The Woodlands


Less than 50.00%
43.40% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
40.06% Albuquerque-Santa Fe-Las Vegas
39.28% San Antonio-New Braunfels
36.48% Los Angeles-Long Beach
33.61% Fresno-Madera-Hanford
17.05% El Paso-Las Cruces


Los Angeles and the Bay Area are the least tied to White/Black hegemony among the large CSAs, followed by Houston and Miami.
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Old 12-25-2020, 07:27 AM
 
Location: Houston, TX
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DC is more ethnically diverse than the Bay Area.

DC’s immigrant profile is more unique than the Bay Areas.

The Bay Area is more racially unique than DC.

The Bay Area is more residentially international than DC.

Those points have already been proven correct and the discussion is over. There is no debate around those. Let’s leave it at that.

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Old 12-25-2020, 07:57 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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Seriously.

The Bay is obviously very diverse, but lets not pretend for a moment that San Jose is anywhere near as diverse as the DC urban area on an ethnic level. San Jose has a higher percentage of foreign born people but they come from far fewer countries (really just India, China, and Vietnam). DC has those but also a massive number of immigrants from Africa and an incredibly diverse Latin American population.

Weve seen that Washington DC is THE most racially diverse urban area in the US. But I think the case is there that its the 2nd most ethnically diverse metro area in the US after NYC too.

From 2010-2019, the immigrant increases over 10k were as follows:

Washington DC - 6 Countries
El Salvador: 32,473
India: 31,094
Guatemala: 26,779
China: 20,349
Afghanistan: 16,338
Ethiopia: 15,152

San Francisco - 3 Countries
India: 70,580
China: 34,080
Afghanistan: 12,187

San Jose - 3 Countries
China: 50,250
India: 45,224
Vietnam: 10,663

Basically the Bay Area is piling on immigrants faster but they come from far fewer places. DC doesnt have the same number, but they come from a lot more places. You could say the Bay is more international, but definitely not more diverse.
India, Ethiopia and Afghanistan in that order are the three most diverse countries on this list. Followed by Vietnam and far down the list China and even further the Central American countries. Now of course immigrants tend to be highly selected from a few regions of countries depending on the city. But the chances are 9/10 when talking ethnic diversity 100 people randomly from India is a more diverse group than 100 people randomly from South America or likely the Americas. Now immigration doesn’t work that way, so their is likely less diversity especially class-wise in the group from India than on paper. I understand the focus because it’s part of the limited data we have. But I feel like saying three or four countries and having India at the top is a misnomer. It might be one country but it’s the majority of a subcontinent.

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Old 12-25-2020, 08:18 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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So much to glean from this...


Data for the largest CSAs.


Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
48.36% White
31.92% Black
11.29% Hispanic
5.57% Asian
2.17% Multiracial

Boston-Worcester-Providence
72.70% White
11.41% Hispanic
6.33% Black
6.22% Asian
2.25% Multiracial

Chicago-Naperville
53.26% White
22.04% Hispanic
15.81% Black
6.58% Asian
1.92% Multiracial

Dallas-Fort Worth
46.64% White
28.44% Hispanic
15.19% Black
6.90% Asian
2.15% Multiracial

Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
67.75% White
20.10% Black
4.60% Hispanic
4.54% Asian
2.49% Multiracial

Houston-The Woodlands
37.70% Hispanic
35.53% White
14.80% Black
6.68% Asian
1.79% Multiracial

Los Angeles-Long Beach
46.76% Hispanic
30.26% White
13.41% Asian
6.22% Black
2.48% Multiracial

Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
43.11% Hispanic
33.28% White
19.17% Black
2.39% Asian
1.47% Multiracial

New York-Newark
47.82% White
23.97% Hispanic
15.10% Black
10.41% Asian
1.87% Multiracial

Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
61.28% White
19.05% Black
11.30% Hispanic
5.60% Asian
2.31% Multiracial

Phoenix-Mesa
54.55% White
31.20% Hispanic
5.37% Black
3.85% Asian
2.43% Multiracial

San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
37.87% White
27.96% Hispanic
23.60% Asian
5.52% Black
3.89% Multiracial

Seattle-Tacoma
64.38% White
12.54% Asian
10.38% Hispanic
5.60% Multiracial
5.22% Black

Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
50.44% White
24.89% Black
12.67% Hispanic
8.29% Asian
3.07% Multiracial

By population totals for all 8 groups:

White
10,803,085 New York-Newark
6,025,705 Boston-Worcester-Providence
5,663,221 Los Angeles-Long Beach
5,233,439 Chicago-Naperville
4,951,834 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
4,418,376 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
3,758,137 Dallas-Fort Worth
3,661,349 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
3,619,190 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
3,313,722 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
3,156,632 Seattle-Tacoma
2,729,880 Phoenix-Mesa
2,577,972 Houston-The Woodlands
2,293,207 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale

Black
3,412,276 New York-Newark
2,443,829 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
2,187,970 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
1,554,633 Chicago-Naperville
1,374,006 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
1,321,958 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
1,224,478 Dallas-Fort Worth
1,222,508 Houston-The Woodlands
1,164,447 Los Angeles-Long Beach
1,074,998 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
534,946 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
525,827 Boston-Worcester-Providence
269,539 Phoenix-Mesa
256,872 Seattle-Tacoma

Hispanic
8,751,736 Los Angeles-Long Beach
5,415,147 New York-Newark
2,970,267 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
2,735,753 Houston-The Woodlands
2,703,917 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
2,292,817 Dallas-Fort Worth
2,166,681 Chicago-Naperville
1,561,347 Phoenix-Mesa
1,244,739 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
946,740 Boston-Worcester-Providence
815,358 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
774,155 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
509,043 Seattle-Tacoma
246,935 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor

Asian
2,510,067 Los Angeles-Long Beach
2,352,193 New York-Newark
2,281,296 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
814,849 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
647,598 Chicago-Naperville
615,485 Seattle-Tacoma
556,697 Dallas-Fort Worth
552,221 Houston-The Woodlands
516,567 Boston-Worcester-Providence
404,705 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
382,235 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
243,177 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
193,583 Phoenix-Mesa
165,011 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale

Multracial
465,944 Los Angeles-Long Beach
424,706 New York-Newark
376,982 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
302,059 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
275,162 Seattle-Tacoma
189,523 Chicago-Naperville
187,738 Boston-Worcester-Providence
174,127 Dallas-Fort Worth
167,019 Philadephia-Reading-Camden
149,949 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
133,128 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
130,553 Houston-The Woodlands
122,134 Phoenix-Mesa
101,832 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale

American Indian and Alaska Native
106,657 Phoenix-Mesa
49,545 Los Angeles-Long Beach
41,788 Seattle-Tacoma
31,728 Dallas-Fort Worth
30,405 New York-Newark
25,141 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
22,160 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
16,588 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
15,676 Boston-Worcester-Providence
15,166 Houston-The Woodlands
11,922 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
11,739 Philadephia-Reading-Camden
9,791 Chicago-Naperville
9,139 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale

Native Hawaiian and Other Pacific Islander
50,326 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
47,749 Los Angeles-Long Beach
37,447 Seattle-Tacoma
10,635 Phoenix-Mesa
8,006 Dallas-Fort Worth
4,467 New York-Newark
4,165 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
4,012 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
3,483 Houston-The Woodlands
2,763 Boston-Worcester-Providence
2,707 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
2,561 Chicago-Naperville
2,529 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
1,157 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor

Some other Race
146,757 New York-Newark
66,694 Boston-Worcester-Providence
58,727 Los Angeles-Long Beach
31,930 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
31,656 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
26,610 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
25,815 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
20,076 Chicago-Naperville
15,888 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
15,536 Houston-The Woodlands
11,806 Dallas-Fort Worth
11,421 Seattle-Tacoma
8,446 Phoenix-Mesa
6,811 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
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Old 12-25-2020, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Los Angeles and Miami's diversity is constantly being downplayed on CD due to the high Hispanic population, but at CSA level, LA and Miami are less Hispanic than NY and DC are White. Isnt that Interesting?
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Old 12-25-2020, 09:54 AM
 
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Los Angeles and Miami's diversity is constantly being downplayed on CD due to the high Hispanic population, but at CSA level, LA and Miami are less Hispanic than NY and DC are White. Isnt that Interesting?
Miami yes. Los Angeles no.

The reason is that all of Miami’s international community comes from Latin America and the Caribbean. There is no Asian or African diversity.
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Old 12-25-2020, 11:10 AM
 
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Another interesting CSA observation: Seattle has more biracial and multiracial persons than Blacks--that's unique among the Largest CSAs.

Anyhow...

CSAs by Foreign Language Speakers(Ages 5+), 2019
8,914,233 Los Angeles-Long Beach
7,981,624 New York-Newark
3,896,767 San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
3,340,111 Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
2,669,580 Houston-The Woodlands
2,644,335 Chicago-Naperville
2,327,298 Dallas-Fort Worth
2,135,036 Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
1,796,506 Boston-Worcester-Providence
1,237,867 Phoenix-Mesa
1,159,320 Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
1,149,698 Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
1,014,955 Seattle-Tacoma
657,394 Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor

CSAs by Percentage of Foriegn Language Speakers(Ages 5+), 2019
51.28% Miami-Port St Lucie-Fort Lauderdale
50.67% Los Angeles-Long Beach
42.74% San Jose-San Francisco-Oakland
39.60% Houston-The Woodlands
37.53% New York-Newark
30.96% Dallas-Fort Worth
28.60% Chicago-Naperville
26.34% Phoenix-Mesa
23.18% Washington-Baltimore-Arlington
22.85% Boston-Worcester-Providence
21.99% Seattle-Tacoma
18.03% Atlanta-Athens-Clarke County-Sandy Springs
16.90% Philadelphia-Reading-Camden
13.05% Detroit-Warren-Ann Arbor
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Old 12-25-2020, 01:56 PM
 
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Los Angeles and Miami's diversity is constantly being downplayed on CD due to the high Hispanic population, but at CSA level, LA and Miami are less Hispanic than NY and DC are White. Isnt that Interesting?
Who cares about CSA?
It's really the neighborhood level that matters if you're talking about diversity.
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Old 12-25-2020, 02:31 PM
 
Location: Los Altos Hills, CA
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Who cares about CSA?
I'm not going to be cyber bullied out of posting data that I find pertinent and might be to others as well.

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It's really the neighborhood level that matters if you're talking about diversity.
Speak for yourself. We have entire freeway corridors of nonstop diversity for miles and miles, sometimes crossing multiple county lines where I live.
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Old 12-25-2020, 03:43 PM
 
Location: That star on your map in the middle of the East Coast, DMV
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Los Angeles and Miami's diversity is constantly being downplayed on CD due to the high Hispanic population, but at CSA level, LA and Miami are less Hispanic than NY and DC are White. Isnt that Interesting?
Correct at the CSA level. Baltimore MSA is less diverse than DC MSA. This is well documented and understood here. Funny how to you always run to CSA when losing an argument.

DC is more ethnically diverse than SF and SJ both.
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